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  • arge30
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2016
    • 5

    swapping image unit bizhub c452

    hi all
    i need your help
    i have a bad cyan image unit (konica minolta bizhub c452), and i can't find it in the market.
    it's possible to buy new yellow or magenta and put it in the cyan image unit ?
    thanks all
  • copyman
    Owner / Technician

    Site Contributor
    2,500+ Posts
    • Sep 2005
    • 4212

    #2
    Re: swapping image unit bizhub c452

    Using a different color or maybe even black with new aftermarket chip. Run around 60 11x17 half tones and you will see the color gradually change after all the original color is used up it will change to color you want.

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    • blackcat4866
      Master Of The Obvious

      Site Contributor
      10,000+ Posts
      • Jul 2007
      • 22696

      #3
      Re: swapping image unit bizhub c452

      Originally posted by copyman
      Using a different color or maybe even black with new aftermarket chip. Run around 60 11x17 half tones and you will see the color gradually change after all the original color is used up it will change to color you want.
      The difficulty as I see it is getting the machine to recognize the other color as cyan. Once the IU is recognized the toner will gradually get replaced with cyan. The aftermarket chip should solve this problem.
      =^..^=
      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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      • arge30
        Junior Member
        • Dec 2016
        • 5

        #4
        Re: swapping image unit bizhub c452

        Originally posted by blackcat4866
        The difficulty as I see it is getting the machine to recognize the other color as cyan. Once the IU is recognized the toner will gradually get replaced with cyan. The aftermarket chip should solve this problem.
        =^..^=
        i have the original chip from the old cyan Image unit, and its remain 100% in the life time.
        so can i pull the chip from old cyan image unite and install it in the new one? its will work or no?
        thank you

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        • blackcat4866
          Master Of The Obvious

          Site Contributor
          10,000+ Posts
          • Jul 2007
          • 22696

          #5
          Re: swapping image unit bizhub c452

          It should work if it's at less than 100% of life.

          I would not run 100% cyan fill images. You don't want to completely de-tone the developer, just deplete it. 70% fill images is fine.
          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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          • allan
            RTFM!!

            5,000+ Posts
            • Apr 2010
            • 5445

            #6
            Re: swapping image unit bizhub c452

            If the unit does not reset properly then face C255X error. Best to get the aftermarket chip.
            Whatever

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            • arge30
              Junior Member
              • Dec 2016
              • 5

              #7
              Re: swapping image unit bizhub c452

              Originally posted by allan
              If the unit does not reset properly then face C255X error. Best to get the aftermarket chip.
              how to reset the unit?
              thank you
              Last edited by arge30; 12-26-2018, 06:15 PM.

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              • copyman
                Owner / Technician

                Site Contributor
                2,500+ Posts
                • Sep 2005
                • 4212

                #8
                Re: swapping image unit bizhub c452

                Only way to reset is with new chip.

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                • Woxner
                  Senior Tech

                  500+ Posts
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 808

                  #9
                  Re: swapping image unit bizhub c452

                  a lot of times if cyan went bad could be clogged toner port or blk could be over due. throws the voltage out of range

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                  • allan
                    RTFM!!

                    5,000+ Posts
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 5445

                    #10
                    Re: swapping image unit bizhub c452

                    Originally posted by Woxner
                    a lot of times if cyan went bad could be clogged toner port or blk could be over due. throws the voltage out of range
                    Jip not enough current for the HV to dish out to the units. I reset the units even if the life stop frimware and switches is set.
                    Something to do with aging compensation.
                    Whatever

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                    • copier tech
                      Field Supervisor

                      5,000+ Posts
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 7930

                      #11
                      Re: swapping image unit bizhub c452

                      Originally posted by arge30
                      hi all
                      i need your help
                      i have a bad cyan image unit (konica minolta bizhub c452), and i can't find it in the market.
                      it's possible to buy new yellow or magenta and put it in the cyan image unit ?
                      thanks all

                      You may have sorted this issue now but yes you can fit the wrong colour image unit simply swap the chip, you will then need to run a few 100 full colour prints to 'flush out' the wrong colour. This is not recommended but I've tried this a few times. Believe it or not you can even use waste toner to 'top up' a depleted image unit.
                      Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                      For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                      www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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                      • arge30
                        Junior Member
                        • Dec 2016
                        • 5

                        #12
                        Re: swapping image unit bizhub c452

                        Originally posted by copier tech
                        You may have sorted this issue now but yes you can fit the wrong colour image unit simply swap the chip, you will then need to run a few 100 full colour prints to 'flush out' the wrong colour. This is not recommended but I've tried this a few times. Believe it or not you can even use waste toner to 'top up' a depleted image unit.

                        thank you very much

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                        • Zesti
                          Trusted Tech

                          250+ Posts
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 308

                          #13
                          Re: swapping image unit bizhub c452

                          Originally posted by copier tech
                          You may have sorted this issue now but yes you can fit the wrong colour image unit simply swap the chip, you will then need to run a few 100 full colour prints to 'flush out' the wrong colour. This is not recommended but I've tried this a few times. Believe it or not you can even use waste toner to 'top up' a depleted image unit.
                          WAOWWWWWWW.................Really very unique experience....

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