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  • Synthohol
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    • Mar 2016
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    just curious...

    have a lot of you folks remember polishing selenium drums on the big old bike chain Minolta?
    thats when i started working on copiers. before digital and then in a couple years the di620s were hot as hell.
    but changing the accelerator board mod was a bit of a drag but so many...

    anyone else get into this business post liquid toner days?
    We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
    The medication helps though...
  • blackcat4866
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    #2
    Re: just curious...

    I started in April 1989. The Savins were mostly gone, but there were still plenty of open reservoir machines that we poured in fuser oil. Back when 40K was the expected drum yield. =^..^=
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    • darry1322
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      #3
      Re: just curious...

      I started out servicing an account with about 80 machines. It was a mixture of EP450Z, EP470Z, and EP570Z machines. We've still got an EP 450Z in our demo room. No it does not still work.

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      • Synthohol
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        #4
        Re: just curious...

        lol, resolder every point on the power supply, that usually fixed 'em
        We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
        The medication helps though...

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        • Synthohol
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          #5
          Re: just curious...

          Originally posted by blackcat4866
          I started in April 1989. The Savins were mostly gone, but there were still plenty of open reservoir machines that we poured in fuser oil. Back when 40K was the expected drum yield. =^..^=
          dear lord, the old cf900/911s and the fuser oil... eeech bad memories
          We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
          The medication helps though...

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          • ayeright
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            • Feb 2011
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            #6
            Re: just curious...

            I started in 85, working with the 'new' 10 series Xerox copiers including the dreadful 1048. Brasso metal polish was the popular way to clean drums back then.

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            • srvctec
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              #7
              Re: just curious...

              I started in October of '88 and the EP470Z was the first one I trained on. Got sent to school on it within a few weeks of starting my job. As someone already said above, solder cold solder joints on practically any board on the machine but especially the power supplies, on 470's on up for a few years. Thank heavens we don't have to deal with cold solder joints much, if at all any more, although I still always check for them when issues arise on certain models or if a power supply is suspected at fault.

              I always hated cleaning the selenium drums because the kits from Minolta made a danged mess with all the white stuff getting all over the place.

              Check this out. These are still on our shelf and in inventory. Haven't needed them for decades.

              Started in the copier service business in the fall of 1988 and worked at the same company for 33.5 years, becoming the senior tech in 2004 but left to pursue another career on 4/29/22.

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              • guitar9199
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                #8
                Re: just curious...

                Started in 85 and was trained on the Savin 770/880 wet boxes....and as soon as my training was completed, the company decided to train me on Panasonic/Saxon SX-30's instead. My territory was the University of Minnesota campus libraries and dorms. The SX-30's were all set up as coin ops with a vend-a-card reader on the box. I pretty much had a full time job just running PM's on those machines....in between calls for college students breaking the equipment of course.

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                • kingarthur
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                  • Feb 2008
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                  #9
                  Re: just curious...

                  I remember changing master sheets on Sharp copiers every 7k, and then topping up with fuser oil too......
                  Tip for the day; Treat every problem as your dog would.....If you cant eat it or f*ck it....then p*ss on it & walk away...

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                  • srvctec
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                    #10
                    Re: just curious...

                    Forgot to mention, although the EP470Z was the first machine I was factory trained on, I worked on 300, 310, 530 series machines for years until they all died off.
                    Started in the copier service business in the fall of 1988 and worked at the same company for 33.5 years, becoming the senior tech in 2004 but left to pursue another career on 4/29/22.

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                    • 3ktlc
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                      #11
                      Re: just curious...

                      Started in 1985. Working on the old Royal 110, 115, 122, 130, 145, 1602, 2502, 3302 models (Konica's). The 03 series was so much better.

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                      • Albonline
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                        #12
                        Re: just curious...

                        1984 RBC2 anybody want toast?

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                        • 3ktlc
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                          #13
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                          Originally posted by Albonline
                          1984 RBC2 anybody want toast?
                          Worked on a couple of those. Not fun.

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                          • harleyrider
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                            #14
                            Re: just curious...

                            started in 1978 e-stats anyone remember those then savin 750 etc. Landa kits what a joke.

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                            • oldschool
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                              #15
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                              Landa Kit!
                              I worked at the Savin factory in Binghamton NY in 1981. I started out learning copiers by keeping the test 800s and 870s running. Later a rep came in and a group of us took classes and I got officially certified. Benny Landa developed the Landa kit there. I got to test one of the first kits. It didn't go well but that never stopped them from selling them. They would over tone and sludge up the tank. I still have an Landa kit chain on my key ring.

                              Polished more than a few drums in my day (Savin, Minolta and Konica). We used Brasso and it worked really well. When I didn't need it for drums anymore, I found it did one hell of a job cleaning feed rollers. I hated carrying and using Fedron. I found Brasso worked 10x better so stopped using Fedron.
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