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  • Thayer
    Trusted Tech

    100+ Posts
    • Dec 2017
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    [Dead] KM808 customer copied money

    Yeah me
    Customer copied money on not 1 but 2 different machines!

    How screwed am I or customer.?

    FYI it was a school...
  • patrickjlc
    Trusted Tech

    100+ Posts
    • Feb 2015
    • 212

    #2
    Re: KM808 customer copied money

    Originally posted by Thayer
    Yeah me
    Customer copied money on not 1 but 2 different machines!

    How screwed am I or customer.?

    FYI it was a school...
    Machine is yours or schools? In either case screwed.

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    • Thayer
      Trusted Tech

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      • Dec 2017
      • 107

      #3
      Re: KM808 customer copied money

      Schools! They tried on both machines.

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      • Synthohol
        Certified Konica Expert

        Site Contributor
        5,000+ Posts
        • Mar 2016
        • 5457

        #4
        Re: KM808 customer copied money

        unless you go through Konica and the secret service you have two parts machines.
        We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
        The medication helps though...

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        • Synthohol
          Certified Konica Expert

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          • Mar 2016
          • 5457

          #5
          Re: KM808 customer copied money

          since its a school, they may be able to claim the damage as vandalism.
          see what their insurance covers, you may just sell 2 new machines if you cant go the legit path.
          We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
          The medication helps though...

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          • qbert69
            Service Manager

            1,000+ Posts
            • Mar 2013
            • 1152

            #6
            Re: KM808 customer copied money

            Pardon my ignorance for asking, but does the copying of money on KM machines disable them??? I have known people to copy items such as checks, titles & various certificates with holographic foil or micro print on other brands of Mfp's, in other words the mfp will black/blank the image or expose the micro print prominently!!!

            Thoughts Welcome!!!

            Thanks!

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            • Leyahné
              Technician
              • Feb 2016
              • 44

              #7
              Re: KM808 customer copied money

              Depends on the amount of money they copied, after +- 10 copies the machine locks up and gives a security code error. Customer is screwed. There is a big sticker that explain this to customers on the scanner.

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              • qbert69
                Service Manager

                1,000+ Posts
                • Mar 2013
                • 1152

                #8
                Re: KM808 customer copied money

                Depends on the amount of money they copied, after +- 10 copies the machine locks up and gives a security code error. Customer is screwed. There is a big sticker that explain this to customers on the scanner.

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                Makes Sense!!! I wonder if this "error" can be cleared with the KM Mainboard reset tool or if the error propagates throughout the system & gets stored on other boards which store data?! Either way, there is some SERIOUS expense involved and most definitely a teachable moment for the customer!!![emoji15]

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                • tsbservice
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                  • May 2007
                  • 7635

                  #9
                  Re: KM808 customer copied money

                  The sticker is small for most dumb a** customers.
                  However learned something new. Thanks Thayer.
                  A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
                  Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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                  • blackcat4866
                    Master Of The Obvious

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                    10,000+ Posts
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 22698

                    #10
                    Re: KM808 customer copied money

                    Just a followup: While we were trying to figure out something to do, the customer called us back. Apparently pressing "Reset" several times cleared the error condition on both machines. Apparently it wasn't the +/- 10 times to brick the machine.

                    We haven't stood in front of the machine, but I'll be interested in knowing the code. =^..^=
                    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                    • Phil B.
                      Field Supervisor

                      10,000+ Posts
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 22808

                      #11
                      Re: KM808 customer copied money

                      Originally posted by qbert69
                      Pardon my ignorance for asking, but does the copying of money on KM machines disable them??? I have known people to copy items such as checks, titles & various certificates with holographic foil or micro print on other brands of Mfp's, in other words the mfp will black/blank the image or expose the micro print prominently!!!

                      Thoughts Welcome!!! Thanks!

                      Sent from my SM-N950U1 using Tapatalk
                      security reasons.. on COLOR machines mainly.

                      checks - titles - certs (NOT BONDS) can be copied in MONO mode only on most units and then they should increase/decrease size of replication (ratio)

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                      • Albonline
                        Service Manager

                        1,000+ Posts
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 1098

                        #12
                        Re: KM808 customer copied money

                        Originally posted by blackcat4866
                        Just a followup: While we were trying to figure out something to do, the customer called us back. Apparently pressing "Reset" several times cleared the error condition on both machines. Apparently it wasn't the +/- 10 times to brick the machine.

                        We haven't stood in front of the machine, but I'll be interested in knowing the code. =^..^=
                        probably cd601 if it was currency

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                        • mascan42
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                          250+ Posts
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 471

                          #13
                          Re: KM808 customer copied money

                          I'm surprised that's even an issue on a B&W copier. I thought only the color machines had that feature.

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                          • CompyTech
                            Super Tech

                            500+ Posts
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 706

                            #14
                            Re: KM808 customer copied money

                            Originally posted by mascan42
                            I'm surprised that's even an issue on a B&W copier. I thought only the color machines had that feature.
                            The machine does have a color scanner though. Have seen a similar issue before where the customer was scanning checks to email and the mfp would error code. Only by making a copy of the check and scanning the printout to file would work. Machine was b&w.

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                            • Bix
                              Service Manager

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                              • Apr 2018
                              • 1421

                              #15
                              Re: KM808 customer copied money

                              Some military barracks need to print banknotes seized from criminals.


                              To remedy the problem, I suggested that he take the photograph with the phone and then print.

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