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  • copier tech
    Field Supervisor

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    • Jan 2014
    • 8132

    #16
    Re: Can't start firmware update in c258

    Originally posted by Bix
    I have to be honest. In my four-year career, no one has ever given me this advice.
    I have never disconnected the network cable.
    Some manufacturers advice you to do this on the training course, but I don't bother or simply forget, apparently it can cause an issue if the client sends a print job while updating.
    Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

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    www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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    • emujo2
      Service Manager

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      • Mar 2017
      • 1580

      #17
      Re: Can't start firmware update in c258

      Originally posted by Bix
      I have to be honest. In my four-year career, no one has ever given me this advice.
      I have never disconnected the network cable.
      Nothing in the service manual or knowledge base suggests this on any KM SMs I have looked through. ..Must be an urban legend..You should never say Bloody Mary 3 times out loud while upgrading firmware..lol

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      • Bix
        Service Manager

        1,000+ Posts
        • Apr 2018
        • 1421

        #18
        Re: Can't start firmware update in c258

        Originally posted by emujo2
        Nothing in the service manual or knowledge base suggests this on any KM SMs I have looked through. ..Must be an urban legend..You should never say Bloody Mary 3 times out loud while upgrading firmware..lol
        If I'm in a hurry, I never upgrade.
        Printers sense my stress and freeze hahaha

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        • femaster
          Service Manager

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          • May 2011
          • 1482

          #19
          Re: Can't start firmware update in c258

          Originally posted by emujo2
          Nothing in the service manual or knowledge base suggests this on any KM SMs I have looked through. ..Must be an urban legend..You should never say Bloody Mary 3 times out loud while upgrading firmware..lol
          I've never seen anything like this mentioned for KM, nor have I ever had an issue updating with the network cable plugged in. I do know that when I worked on Ricoh/Savin lines, it was a requirement, and they pushed it hard in training. If anything came over that network cable during the update, it would cause you some major headaches that you really didn't want to experience.
          A Ricoh Service Tech for 7 year. A Konica Minolta Service Tech for 7 years. Now, KM service manager for 4 years.
          My Ricoh knowledge is slowly dwindling away at this point. Many things have been lost to time...

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          • copier tech
            Field Supervisor

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            • Jan 2014
            • 8132

            #20
            Re: Can't start firmware update in c258

            Originally posted by femaster
            I've never seen anything like this mentioned for KM, nor have I ever had an issue updating with the network cable plugged in. I do know that when I worked on Ricoh/Savin lines, it was a requirement, and they pushed it hard in training. If anything came over that network cable during the update, it would cause you some major headaches that you really didn't want to experience.
            Yes, maybe i'm thinking of a Ricoh course, been on so many different manufacturers over the years.

            However I do pull the LAN if working on a Bizhub in a busy office, it stops the users printing when i'm trying to access CE mode!


            Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

            For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

            www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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            • blackcat4866
              Master Of The Obvious

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              • Jul 2007
              • 22999

              #21
              Re: Can't start firmware update in c258

              I have a handful of 2GB Centron USB2.0 sticks that I use for almost everything. The Centron sticks were misprinted with some logo that I cannot recognize, so I got them cheap. They almost never fail. I've had two of them die after daily hard use. One took a trip through the washing machine. When I inserted it in the PC it said that the drive was "dirty"! I can't imagine why? It's as clean as I could get it.

              I have two 8GB sticks for the HP Pagewide XL firmware (massive: 7GB). I've also got some ancient 100MB & 250MB sticks intended for early digital cameras. When possible, I always use the smallest stick that will still hold the whole firmware file. =^..^=
              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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              • rrrohan
                Service Manager

                Site Contributor
                1,000+ Posts
                • Sep 2011
                • 1977

                #22
                Re: Can't start firmware update in c258

                Originally posted by blackcat4866
                I have a handful of 2GB Centron USB2.0 sticks that I use for almost everything. The Centron sticks were misprinted with some logo that I cannot recognize, so I got them cheap. They almost never fail. I've had two of them die after daily hard use. One took a trip through the washing machine. When I inserted it in the PC it said that the drive was "dirty"! I can't imagine why? It's as clean as I could get it.

                I have two 8GB sticks for the HP Pagewide XL firmware (massive: 7GB). I've also got some ancient 100MB & 250MB sticks intended for early digital cameras. When possible, I always use the smallest stick that will still hold the whole firmware file. =^..^=
                im glad we dont have the CF cards anymore.

                we use to use ISW to load firmware on CF card models because it always worked and we kept losing the cards or the card reader lol.

                I like using ISW at runup in workshop but havent been able to get it to work since the 4 series required u to attract the files instead of leaving them as a tar file

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                • femaster
                  Service Manager

                  1,000+ Posts
                  • May 2011
                  • 1482

                  #23
                  Re: Can't start firmware update in c258

                  Originally posted by copier tech
                  Yes, maybe i'm thinking of a Ricoh course, been on so many different manufacturers over the years.

                  However I do pull the LAN if working on a Bizhub in a busy office, it stops the users printing when i'm trying to access CE mode!
                  Yes, definitely something I tend to do as well. Nothing like attempting to get in and just as you are entering the pass code, someone sends a job and locks you out.
                  A Ricoh Service Tech for 7 year. A Konica Minolta Service Tech for 7 years. Now, KM service manager for 4 years.
                  My Ricoh knowledge is slowly dwindling away at this point. Many things have been lost to time...

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                  • rrrohan
                    Service Manager

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                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 1977

                    #24
                    Re: Can't start firmware update in c258

                    If IT is onsite I tell them to set print cue to offline. I've had sites that if U don't do this jobs get jammed in cue.

                    Most IT don't allow Manage permissions so asking 10 lawyers to do something "technical" is impossible

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