Bizhub C368 / C558 Firmware the same?

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  • Phil B.
    Field Supervisor

    10,000+ Posts
    • Jul 2016
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    #16
    Re: Bizhub C368 / C558 Firmware the same?

    Originally posted by femaster
    These aren't my guidlines, I just follow what the "boss" tells me to do. Frankly, I don't think he has a clue a lot of the time, but don't tell him I said that!

    In the bulletin you provided, while it states that it is a "Highly Recommended" update that covers a pretty significant security flaw, it only affects machines that have an external keyboard attached. In this case, we would only update the affected machines that actually have keyboards installed. Out of the few thousand machines we service, maybe 50 or 60 total have external keyboards, and of those, there might be 5 that are on the affected models. In this case, only those 5 would be updated to the indicated special firmware, from either the base firmware, or whatever previously installed special firmware may have been on them.
    How many bosses REALLY have a grasp on tech issues OR customers needs/demands?
    We can talk to them until we are blue in the face, they only hear what they want to.
    Prime example, the last ass I worked for wanted to carry the image graph line of Canon. The ops manager and the service manager (me) voted thumbs down, he over rode us and signed up for a six year deal, the 1st four machines were screwed out of the box. I am trained on the product. They shipped us replacements ...
    CORPORATE TECHS failed getting the first ones shipped fixed, and two more out of the second shipments were sent back. Boss lost 3 federal contracts due to these problems.
    We installed Epson wide formats in the other... extremely pleased with the product.
    Then he screwed OPS Mgr and myself out of sales contracts and spiffs.
    Tony and I left shortly later.
    His biz is now in the shitter, because he lied to us and the customers.
    He also screwed recycle customers, he is filing for bankruptcy... 30+ years and now he is selling used cars.
    A shister always gets his hust rewards![emoji16]


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    • copier tech
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      • Jan 2014
      • 8200

      #17
      Re: Bizhub C368 / C558 Firmware the same?

      Originally posted by rrrohan
      reminds me of one client i have running function version 2 because im to lazy to go around and update drivers
      Surely the driver is the same regardless of what function version the machine is on!?


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      • rrrohan
        Service Manager

        Site Contributor
        1,000+ Posts
        • Sep 2011
        • 1977

        #18
        Re: Bizhub C368 / C558 Firmware the same?

        Originally posted by copier tech
        Surely the driver is the same regardless of what function version the machine is on!?


        nope. old driver wouldnt support function version 4+ and since they used account track it didnt like it.

        if im honest i still dont know what a function versions mean. ud think v2 vs v4.2 must include many advanced and improved functions but im yet to notice any.

        airprint on 4 series was only time ive felt the need to up the function version

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        • Bix
          Service Manager

          1,000+ Posts
          • Apr 2018
          • 1421

          #19
          Re: Bizhub C368 / C558 Firmware the same?

          The version enables and disables the new printer features. If the account track doesn't work, you can keep the firmware up to date and just do a simple downgrade for the version via dipsw. For example, in the 8 series printers, if you upgraded from version 3.3 to version 4.2, the web interface is completely renewed.

          In germany KM would almost force us to update with periodic firmware because there are often important updates for the security of the printer lately. With the GDPR in Europe, large companies could face heavy fines.
          fweuro.jpg
          This is our interface and there are no divisions.

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          • copier tech
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            • Jan 2014
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            #20
            Re: Bizhub C368 / C558 Firmware the same?

            I don't have any Bizhubs using account track so maybe this is why we've never had an issue updating a function version in the past.


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            • KMFLT3CH
              Trusted Tech

              100+ Posts
              • May 2017
              • 242

              #21
              Re: Bizhub C368 / C558 Firmware the same?

              Originally posted by femaster
              In the bulletin you provided, while it states that it is a "Highly Recommended" update that covers a pretty significant security flaw, it only affects machines that have an external keyboard attached. In this case, we would only update the affected machines that actually have keyboards installed. Out of the few thousand machines we service, maybe 50 or 60 total have external keyboards, and of those, there might be 5 that are on the affected models. In this case, only those 5 would be updated to the indicated special firmware, from either the base firmware, or whatever previously installed special firmware may have been on them.
              I mean, that fw had a bunch of other good fixes too, listed on page 4 - DLKM_BT2011643EN.pdf
              I'm surprised to hear more machines aren't sold with the external Cherry keyboard, our Sales team seems to think every machine should go out with them *eyeroll*

              Originally posted by Bix
              In germany KM would almost force us to update with periodic firmware because there are often important updates for the security of the printer lately. With the GDPR in Europe, large companies could face heavy fines.
              Also often the case for U.S. KM direct.

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              • rrrohan
                Service Manager

                Site Contributor
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                • Sep 2011
                • 1977

                #22
                Re: Bizhub C368 / C558 Firmware the same?

                Yeah firmware was updated at runup.

                I've never had luck updating driver of print cue I always have issues and end up having to del the cue.

                Hence changing one bit switch was way easier

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                • Xabi
                  Technician

                  Site Contributor
                  • Sep 2015
                  • 18

                  #23
                  Hi, could someone send me pls the latest firmware for Bizhub c458.
                  thx
                  saskajaras@gmail.com

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                  • copyman
                    Owner / Technician

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                    2,500+ Posts
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 4762

                    #24
                    I have found in some cases to leave well enough alone and not update F/W. If I sell an off lease machine I will update base F/W while in the shop. Once machine is in customers office and working fine I will not automatically update F/W. Will only update special F/W for a specific issue.

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                    • copier tech
                      Field Supervisor

                      5,000+ Posts
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 8200

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Xabi
                      Hi, could someone send me pls the latest firmware for Bizhub c458.
                      thx
                      saskajaras@gmail.com
                      Happy to help drop us an email.

                      www.printerfirmware.co.uk


                      Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

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                      • John Kaufmann
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                        Site Contributor
                        100+ Posts
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 116

                        #26
                        Looking for firmware, Xabi resurrected this moribund thread from over four years ago, and [because the email link dumps you into the beginning of a thread 🤔 rather than the most recent post] I noticed this old (February 2021) unanswered question from adecanmin --
                        I was experimenting with the firmware on a shop machine. It needed a special firmware to be able to scan smb 2.0. I installed it, smb 2.0, it worked. Just to see what would happen. I installed a newer special firmware and it removed the smb 2.0. functionality. Why wouldn't a special firmware include all fixes up the that point in time instead of having to cherry pick?
                        -- and I realized I did not know, either. Anyone know the answer to that question?

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                        • copier tech
                          Field Supervisor

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                          • Jan 2014
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by John Kaufmann
                          Looking for firmware, Xabi resurrected this moribund thread from over four years ago, and [because the email link dumps you into the beginning of a thread 🤔 rather than the most recent post] I noticed this old (February 2021) unanswered question from adecanmin --

                          -- and I realized I did not know, either. Anyone know the answer to that question?
                          Yes this site had a major update last year & has not been the same since.

                          Each mass production firmware includes the previous 'special firmware' updates.

                          SMB v3.0 is available now.

                          www.printerfirmware.co.uk




                          Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                          For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                          www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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