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  • jwai
    Senior Tech

    500+ Posts
    • May 2018
    • 502

    #1

    C227 internal error

    Hello,

    One bizhub C227 sometimes displayed internal error and reboot itself, when user copy / scan document through original glass.
    I check the trouble code history, the codes ranking are CFA17>CDFA0>C9401, so I reconnected the flat cable and clean the scanner section.
    ( F/W version G00-Y0 )

    Any suggestion about this issue?
  • Albonline
    Service Manager

    1,000+ Posts
    • Sep 2008
    • 1132

    #2
    Re: C227 internal error

    Originally posted by jwai
    Hello,

    One bizhub C227 sometimes displayed internal error and reboot itself, when user copy / scan document through original glass.
    I check the trouble code history, the codes ranking are CFA17>CDFA0>C9401, so I reconnected the flat cable and clean the scanner section.
    ( F/W version G00-Y0 )Any suggestion about this issue?

    I have seen the flat cable breakdown on units with high scan counts. the repeated flexing wears the conductors out ,you can actually see the cracks is you remove the teflon backing tape.

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    • blackcat4866
      Master Of The Obvious

      Site Contributor
      10,000+ Posts
      • Jul 2007
      • 22932

      #3
      Re: C227 internal error

      I think I'd start with the CCDB. We've seen quite a lot of CCDB failures on 754e series, 658 series, 808 series, especially in very high scan volume environments. =^..^=
      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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      • Albonline
        Service Manager

        1,000+ Posts
        • Sep 2008
        • 1132

        #4
        Re: C227 internal error

        Originally posted by blackcat4866
        I think I'd start with the CCDB. We've seen quite a lot of CCDB failures on 754e series, 658 series, 808 series, especially in very high scan volume environments. =^..^=
        c227 is not a konica scanner . no ccd uses cis built into first mirror/lamp unit (cis unit)

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        • blackcat4866
          Master Of The Obvious

          Site Contributor
          10,000+ Posts
          • Jul 2007
          • 22932

          #5
          Re: C227 internal error

          Thanks for the correction! =^..^=
          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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          • jwai
            Senior Tech

            500+ Posts
            • May 2018
            • 502

            #6
            Re: C227 internal error

            Originally posted by Albonline
            I have seen the flat cable breakdown on units with high scan counts. the repeated flexing wears the conductors out ,you can actually see the cracks is you remove the teflon backing tape.
            so you consider the flat cable is the most possible cause?

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            • blackcat4866
              Master Of The Obvious

              Site Contributor
              10,000+ Posts
              • Jul 2007
              • 22932

              #7
              Re: C227 internal error

              Something like this?:

              Loire2X Ribbon.JPG

              I've seen this on Toshibas. =^..^=
              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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              • Albonline
                Service Manager

                1,000+ Posts
                • Sep 2008
                • 1132

                #8
                Re: C227 internal error

                Originally posted by jwai
                so you consider the flat cable is the most possible cause?
                you can see the broken traces if you inspect the ribbon cable. if there are ripples in it, its falling apart on the inside.

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                • copier tech
                  Field Supervisor

                  5,000+ Posts
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 8103

                  #9
                  Re: C227 internal error

                  Originally posted by jwai
                  Hello,

                  One bizhub C227 sometimes displayed internal error and reboot itself, when user copy / scan document through original glass.
                  I check the trouble code history, the codes ranking are CFA17>CDFA0>C9401, so I reconnected the flat cable and clean the scanner section.
                  ( F/W version G00-Y0 )

                  Any suggestion about this issue?
                  I'd start first by updating the firmware & then the function version.

                  When scanning/copying the HDD is being written to so you could have a failing HDD.




                  Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                  For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                  www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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                  • zoool
                    Technician

                    50+ Posts
                    • Nov 2016
                    • 52

                    #10
                    Re: C227 internal error

                    look for this firmware A7AH0Y0-F000-GC2-K7-990-CHECKSUM-b131

                    i have that issue in b/w 227

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                    • jwai
                      Senior Tech

                      500+ Posts
                      • May 2018
                      • 502

                      #11
                      Re: C227 internal error

                      Originally posted by copier tech
                      I'd start first by updating the firmware & then the function version.

                      When scanning/copying the HDD is being written to so you could have a failing HDD.




                      The printing is OK, copyscan through document feeder is ok, mainly occurred on copy/scan through original glass.

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                      • jwai
                        Senior Tech

                        500+ Posts
                        • May 2018
                        • 502

                        #12
                        Re: C227 internal error

                        I updated the machine with GC2-W4 firmware and test a period, this month I visit and check the error call times, 9401 > FA17 > FC06.

                        Now I consider it may cause of IR unit, flat cable, MFPB or other else?

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