How To Print From Different Network To Single Copier

[Synthohol]

Re: How To Print From Different Network To Single Copier

You are limited by the class status of the network..Class C (192.168.x.x) has 254 available IPs.

with only 2 fixed octets in the subnet there are 512 possible IPs and that makes it a class B network. a class C network has 3 octets locked in.

ive had many networks where 2 businesses shared a machine, just made the subnet 255.255.0.0 and one network was a x.x.1.x and the other x.x.0.x and they were able to both use the machine.
the 2 workgroups were named different on the computers so nobody saw any other company PCs in network neighborhood (unless they did a \\x.x.x.x and saw the shares on that PC) but without password they couldnt access them anyway through non nefarious means.

[blackcat4866]

Re: How To Print From Different Network To Single Copier

LOL (Blackcat is a CopyCat! lol)


sometimes ill have a post open im replying to for a few minutes and when i post i waited too long and someone else says the same thing and i jusst delete mine.
im not saying delete yours, im just saying it happens a lot to me.

Clearly we think along the same lines. Frequently, I find myself reading your post first. "He beat me by 1 minute!" =^..^=

[femaster]

Re: How To Print From Different Network To Single Copier

with only 2 fixed octets in the subnet there are 512 possible IPs and that makes it a class B network. a class C network has 3 octets locked in.

ive had many networks where 2 businesses shared a machine, just made the subnet 255.255.0.0 and one network was a x.x.1.x and the other x.x.0.x and they were able to both use the machine.
the 2 workgroups were named different on the computers so nobody saw any other company PCs in network neighborhood (unless they did a \\x.x.x.x and saw the shares on that PC) but without password they couldnt access them anyway through non nefarious means.

Technically with a subnet of 255.255.0.0, you have a massive amount of IPs available, 65,536 to be exact. All that is really needed for what you are referring to would be 255.255.254.0, which would give you exactly 512 possible IPs.

For anybody interested, there is a really good explanation of subnets, and a chart that helps people to understand the number of possible IPs over varying combinations, at the website below:

Subnet Cheat Sheet – 24 Subnet Mask, 30, 26, 27, 29, and other IP Address CIDR Network References

[BillyCarpenter]

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Technically with a subnet of 255.255.0.0, you have a massive amount of IPs available, 65,536 to be exact. All that is really needed for what you are referring to would be 255.255.254.0, which would give you exactly 512 possible IPs.

For anybody interested, there is a really good explanation of subnets, and a chart that helps people to understand the number of possible IPs over varying combinations, at the website below:

Subnet Cheat Sheet – 24 Subnet Mask, 30, 26, 27, 29, and other IP Address CIDR Network References

This is correct. You can vary the subnet to either create more networks or more device addresses. They are inversely proportional. But it's not a wise idea to put too many devices on 1 single network as broadcast traffic would become a problem. Generally speaking, routers block broadcast traffic. VLANS are most commonly used to separate several broadcast domains but a router or layer 3 switch is needed to communicate between the different VLAN's.

In any event, the OP said that an additional router was added to gain more IP addresses. A router wouldn't be needed for that. But it would be needed to manage broadcast traffic.


With all that being said, I have to wonder how many devices are on the network(s) in question:

The IEEE standard for 802.3 recommends no more than 1024 hosts in a single broadcast domain. Some protocols and operating systems are more chatty than others generating higher volumes of broadcast type traffic.

Unless the company has a shit load of PC's, another router wouldn't be needed to control broadcast traffic.


EDIT: We can't say what subnet is needed for the network in question. We would need to know the number of devices on the network and then calculate in any future growth. Only then can we safely determine the best suited subnet. The last thing we want is to outgrow the network and have to tear it down and do it over again.

[BillyCarpenter]

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BTW: I don't think this is a router problem. He can ping the copier. The route from Network A to B is working. There's something else going on. Maybe a firewall issue?

[bsm2]

Re: How To Print From Different Network To Single Copier

BTW: I don't think this is a router problem. He can ping the copier. The route from Network A to B is working. There's something else going on. Maybe a firewall issue?

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[BillyCarpenter]

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I'm glad that you're getting some training, son. For you to think this is a router problem is a classic rookie mistake.

Your first assignment is to learn how to troubleshoot a route.

First use the ping tool to see if the packet it making it to the destination and back. Then you can move on to tracert. The tool sends a sequence of packets across the network and receives responses from each router in the path. By doing this, it determines if there are any problems along the path.


Get to work.

[bsm2]

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I'm glad that you're getting some training, son. For you to think this is a router problem is a classic rookie mistake.

Your first assignment is to learn how to troubleshoot a route.

First use the ping tool to see if the packet it making it to the destination and back. Then you can move on to tracert. The tool sends a sequence of packets across the network and receives responses from each router in the path. By doing this, it determines if there are any problems along the path.


Get to work.

get some training and certification it's embarrassing for every tech on this site

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[BillyCarpenter]

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get some training and certification it's embarrassing for every tech on this site

This will be my last response to you. But I want to expose you for the fraud that you are. You told the OP that it was a router problem? You gave no explanation as to why it was a router problem. He told you that he could ping the copier. So, obviously the path (route) is there and the 2 devices are able to communicate. You could have told the OP to run a tracert test to confirm that the route wasn't broken. You did none of that.

You told him that the router needs to be bridged.

If there two things I know it's routers and switches. I also know that you have no idea what you're talking about.

[bsm2]

Re: How To Print From Different Network To Single Copier

This will be my last response to you. But I want to expose you for the fraud that you are. You told the OP that it was a router problem? You gave no explanation as to why it was a router problem. He told you that he could ping the copier. So, obviously the path (route) is there and the 2 devices are able to communicate. You could have told the OP to run a tracert test to confirm that the route wasn't broken. You did none of that.

You told him that the router needs to be bridged.

If there two thing I know it's routers and switches. I also know that you have no idea what you're talking about.

100 correct you have no idea what you're talking about.
Was there a solution in that rambling?
Is it a copier issue No
Is it a networking issue Yes
Don't get mad Get some real training

Here you go

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[Synthohol]

Re: How To Print From Different Network To Single Copier

is this what happens when the rant and raves forum spills over into a forum im heavily invested in?
the animosity is overwhelming, i always thought the konica forum was a safe space away from the pre-pubescent chat room of rants and raves.
debate is good for everyone, but the bickering is not good for anyone or the resolution of the OP issue.

[BillyCarpenter]

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is this what happens when the rant and raves forum spills over into a forum im heavily invested in?
the animosity is overwhelming, i always thought the konica forum was a safe space away from the pre-pubescent chat room of rants and raves.
debate is good for everyone, but the bickering is not good for anyone or the resolution of the OP issue.

I never bring it to the copier threads. bsm2 is obsessed with me. He even has my name in my profile. He follows me around in the copier forum and never misses a chance to try to prove I'm an idiot. I'm tired of it. I usually ignore him but it's old. Real old.

[michaelharrison1984]

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Set Quick IP Filtering to 'None'

We have experienced this a few times now. If you can ping but not access the GUI or print from a different subnet then usually IP Filtering is the cause.

[tsbservice]

Re: How To Print From Different Network To Single Copier

Set Quick IP Filtering to 'None'

We have experienced this a few times now. If you can ping but not access the GUI or print from a different subnet then usually IP Filtering is the cause.

Ha-ha, we turn this off upon every new install if that's the problem then....

[emujo2]

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I never bring it to the copier threads. bsm2 is obsessed with me. He even has my name in my profile. He follows me around in the copier forum and never misses a chance to try to prove I'm an idiot. I'm tired of it. I usually ignore him but it's old. Real old.

You 2 are the Hatfields and McCoys of CTN.com, I actually had to unsubscribe to multiple threads to get away from your constant bickering..You both have diametrically opposed viewpoints, mostly based on politics, and 99% of that based around Trump. I've had better behavior out of my teenage kids on a long car trip. There is no humor in your back and forth flame wars and it's just getting old..E