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  • elmaligno
    Expert technician KM

    250+ Posts
    • Oct 2009
    • 298

    #1

    [Misc] Bad image c658

    Good afternoon colleagues, I have in the same client 5 C-658 which all have the same problem:
    Very often the image becomes poor quality, poor and blurred colors, etc. simply doing the reset and stabilizer is solved in all cases, the consumables are ok.
    The issue is that the user can't be doing it every day from the expert administrator setting, and loses a lot of prints when the problem occurs. The only thing that makes this client different from others is that it does a lot of prints per day.
    I tried to look for an option so that the machine when turning it on in the morning performs the stabilize and reset and not only the stabilize, but I did not see anything.
    Any idea?
    Thanks in advance
    Field technician since 1994
  • barber782
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    • Aug 2011
    • 279

    #2
    Re: Bad image c658

    Samples?

    Sent from my VTR-L09 using Tapatalk

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    • elmaligno
      Expert technician KM

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      • Oct 2009
      • 298

      #3
      Re: Bad image c658

      Originally posted by barber782
      Samples?

      Sent from my VTR-L09 using Tapatalk
      Images attached before and after reset + stabilizer
      Attached Files
      Field technician since 1994

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      • elmaligno
        Expert technician KM

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        • Oct 2009
        • 298

        #4
        Re: Bad image c658

        Originally posted by elmaligno
        Good afternoon colleagues, I have in the same client 5 C-658 which all have the same problem:
        Very often the image becomes poor quality, poor and blurred colors, etc. simply doing the reset and stabilizer is solved in all cases, the consumables are ok.
        The issue is that the user can't be doing it every day from the expert administrator setting, and loses a lot of prints when the problem occurs. The only thing that makes this client different from others is that it does a lot of prints per day.
        I tried to look for an option so that the machine when turning it on in the morning performs the stabilize and reset and not only the stabilize, but I did not see anything.
        Any idea?
        Thanks in advance
        The issue is that as it is solved by running reset + stabilizer and it happens in the 5 machines, I do not think they have the same failure the 5, then the solution I'm looking for is how to make the machine perform the adjustment automatically.
        Field technician since 1994

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        • Synthohol
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          • Mar 2016
          • 5738

          #5
          Re: Bad image c658

          reset and stabilize without running all gradations is pointless.
          it cannot do that by itself.
          when you run full gradations then stabilize again (not reset), that reading will stay in memory and the machine will try to keep up with it.
          that should help
          We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
          The medication helps though...

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          • Ziggy
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            • Feb 2018
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            #6
            Re: Bad image c658

            Originally posted by elmaligno
            Images attached before and after reset + stabilizer
            Almost looks like a laser problem. But before we go down that rabbit hole what are the counters of drum , transfer belt and transfer roller?

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            • tsbservice
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              • May 2007
              • 7923

              #7
              Re: Bad image c658

              Depending on what they're printing you can tell the machine to prioritize stabilization control on black or color output. Other than that we cannot really influence with stabilization control.
              Keep in mind to clean IDC sensors on any call or PM activities
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              • Ziggy
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                • Feb 2018
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                #8
                Re: Bad image c658

                Originally posted by Synthohol
                reset and stabilize without running all gradations is pointless.
                it cannot do that by itself.
                when you run full gradations then stabilize again (not reset), that reading will stay in memory and the machine will try to keep up with it.
                that should help
                I didn't notice that he didn't run gradation. I'm in 100% agreement with you

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                • elmaligno
                  Expert technician KM

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                  • Oct 2009
                  • 298

                  #9
                  Re: Bad image c658

                  Originally posted by Markks
                  Almost looks like a laser problem. But before we go down that rabbit hole what are the counters of drum , transfer belt and transfer roller?
                  They are 5 machines. Consumables OK
                  Field technician since 1994

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                  • Ziggy
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                    • Feb 2018
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                    #10
                    Re: Bad image c658

                    Originally posted by elmaligno
                    They are 5 machines. Consumables OK
                    Like Synthohol said after you initialize the gradation settings you must run gradation again to give the machine a baseline. you may have to run each gradation several times . the correction level should be between -100 and +100. the closer to zero the better

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                    • suomi
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                      • Oct 2008
                      • 152

                      #11
                      Re: Bad image c658

                      System2>image stabilization setting>color priority. maybe make adjustments more often??

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                      • Synthohol
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                        • Mar 2016
                        • 5738

                        #12
                        Re: Bad image c658

                        without a baseline from proper calibration (cleaning and gradations) any color setting is just willy-nilly.
                        We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                        The medication helps though...

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