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  • kingarthur
    Service Manager

    1,000+ Posts
    • Feb 2008
    • 1364

    #1

    [CQ] C452 CQ

    Hi everyone...got a C452 that produces a dirty mark, like a scuff on the first copy/print out only, about 1 cm from lead edge....but only when copying/printing black, it's fine when copying/printing in colour, i've tried another K drum unit, i've cleaned the entrance to the fuser, i've even blocked the entrance to the fuser to elminate that part of the m/c, i'm thinking it must be a dev or dev unit issue, has anyone else had a problem...

    cheers
    Tip for the day; Treat every problem as your dog would.....If you cant eat it or f*ck it....then p*ss on it & walk away...
  • PeterG
    Trusted Tech

    100+ Posts
    • Jul 2008
    • 177

    #2
    Re: C452 CQ

    That's ringing a bell. I think it was the belt. But I wouldn't trust a 55 year old hard living fossil's memory.

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    • fornerm
      Technician

      50+ Posts
      • Apr 2010
      • 82

      #3
      Re: C452 CQ

      Scan and post a test pattern, so we can see..........

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      • EarthKmTech
        Step aside, noob

        1,000+ Posts
        • May 2009
        • 2139

        #4
        Re: C452 CQ

        its the belt

        the cleaning brush leaves dirty marks on the first page near the leading edge of all print runs, but not subsequent pages of the same print run. It must be replaced. (transfer belt unit)

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        • Gaffers01
          Trusted Tech

          Site Contributor
          250+ Posts
          • May 2011
          • 335

          #5
          Re: C452 CQ

          I have had this problem on 2 machines in the same office, it is the transfer belt
          BUT from my experiance the problem will comeback after awhile.
          I havent ever totally got rid of the problem, i just replace belt and then wait a few months for the call to come back in.

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          • JustManuals
            Field Supervisor

            5,000+ Posts
            • Jan 2006
            • 9838

            #6
            Re: C452 CQ

            King - If you want the SM and PM just message me and I'll send it along at no charge

            Paul

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            • Spidula
              Konica Minolta Technician

              50+ Posts
              • Apr 2010
              • 83

              #7
              Re: C452 CQ

              Vac out the cleaner section. Keeps it going for a while till the next time. A lot cheaper than changing the belt every time

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              • EarthKmTech
                Step aside, noob

                1,000+ Posts
                • May 2009
                • 2139

                #8
                Re: C452 CQ

                certain environments will have a repeat issue and the belt wont last its full life. I'm not sure what causes it but it seems more prevalent on high coverage customers.

                Its actually more common than you think, most customers in my experience don't notice it, so i don't go out of my way to point it out to them.

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                • kingarthur
                  Service Manager

                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 1364

                  #9
                  Re: C452 CQ

                  thanks everyone...i'm back at work tomorrow, cant scan an image....cos it wont show up on scan...unfortunately the customer has noticed on both the m/c,s we have the problem on....thanks for the offer Paul...but I've already got them...
                  Tip for the day; Treat every problem as your dog would.....If you cant eat it or f*ck it....then p*ss on it & walk away...

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                  • PeterG
                    Trusted Tech

                    100+ Posts
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 177

                    #10
                    Re: C452 CQ

                    It seems my feeble memory was correct in this instance.

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                    • David Morrison
                      Digital Tech II
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 43

                      #11
                      Re: C452 CQ

                      Originally posted by kingarthur
                      Hi everyone...got a C452 that produces a dirty mark, like a scuff on the first copy/print out only, about 1 cm from lead edge....but only when copying/printing black, it's fine when copying/printing in colour, i've tried another K drum unit, i've cleaned the entrance to the fuser, i've even blocked the entrance to the fuser to elminate that part of the m/c, i'm thinking it must be a dev or dev unit issue, has anyone else had a problem...

                      cheers
                      I'm having the same problem. Did you find a solution?

                      (never mind... Read the other posts... I will try the transfer belt or clean the cleaning section)
                      Last edited by David Morrison; 07-16-2013, 04:31 PM. Reason: read further down for answers

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                      • HoonBoy
                        Trusted Tech

                        100+ Posts
                        • May 2011
                        • 130

                        #12
                        Re: C452 CQ

                        The solution for this problem is to adjust the Transfer cleaning bias(plus power adjustment) to -5.

                        Try it and save yourself a few transfer belts...

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