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  • blackcat4866
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    #16
    Re: Kyocera 2-series Question

    Assuming all these machines are properly maintained:

    Better than Kyocera Alphard Venus
    Better than Lexmark
    Not as good as Toshiba
    Not as good as Konica Minolta

    Probably not as good as Ricoh or Canon, but it's been too long for me to know.
    =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    • BillyCarpenter
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      #17
      Re: Kyocera 2-series Question

      Originally posted by blackcat4866
      Assuming all these machines are properly maintained:

      Better than Kyocera Alphard Venus
      Better than Lexmark
      Not as good as Toshiba
      Not as good as Konica Minolta

      Probably not as good as Ricoh or Canon, but it's been too long for me to know.
      =^..^=
      One last question and I'll stop bugging you. Do the HyPass apps come standard on the 2 & 3 series?
      Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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      • bronco31
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        #18
        Re: Kyocera 2-series Question

        and Vivid mode in the KX driver helps Kyo color POP!

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        • bronco31
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          #19
          Re: Kyocera 2-series Question

          Originally posted by blackcat4866
          The KMxx52ci & KMxx53 series are almost identical, and a closer relative to the Hanabi than the Venus. All that being said, they corrected many of the problems on the Hanabi. The image quality seems to the more consistent. By now, all the defective fusers should be long gone. =^..^=

          3253ci or 3553ci... different engines no?

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          • blackcat4866
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            Re: Kyocera 2-series Question

            Low speed versus high speed differentiation.

            Mainly its the consumables that are upgraded on the higher speed models to increase yield.
            The engines look very similar. The maintenance modes are slightly more rudimentary on the low speed models. All the maintenance modes that you'd expect to see on the high speed models. =^..^=
            If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
            1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
            3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
            4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

            blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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            • blackcat4866
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              Re: Kyocera 2-series Question

              Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
              One last question and I'll stop bugging you. Do the HyPass apps come standard on the 2 & 3 series?
              Sorry, don't know that one. =^..^=
              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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              • blackcat4866
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                Re: Kyocera 2-series Question

                Oh, and don't try using that FK-8550H fuser in your KM-3252ci. If you install with power ON, the machine will continue to run, compressing the pages in exit making them increasingly wavy, especially ledger. If you power OFF/ON it will error fuser mismatch.

                Ask me how I know. =^..^=
                Last edited by blackcat4866; 01-21-2021, 03:19 AM.
                If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                • bronco31
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                  #23
                  Re: Kyocera 2-series Question

                  Originally posted by blackcat4866
                  Low speed versus high speed differentiation.

                  Mainly its the consumables that are upgraded on the higher speed models to increase yield.
                  The engines look very similar. The maintenance modes are slightly more rudimentary on the low speed models. All the maintenance modes that you'd expect to see on the high speed models. =^..^=


                  OK thanks so much BC...

                  Am i correct here? .. the 32xx is low speed model design.. (32ppm is top speed for that model) . and the 35xx is the high speed design (and 35ppm is slowest on up to the 5053ci or even 8353ci?)

                  im deciding between the 2 because im looking to propose a 30ish ppm color A3 Kyocera..

                  (wow im on EU site.. the 3554ci is out!)

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                  • blackcat4866
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                    Re: Kyocera 2-series Question

                    Originally posted by bronco31
                    OK thanks so much BC...

                    Am i correct here? .. the 32xx is low speed model design.. (32ppm is top speed for that model) . and the 35xx is the high speed design (and 35ppm is slowest on up to the 5053ci or even 8353ci?)

                    im deciding between the 2 because im looking to propose a 30ish ppm color A3 Kyocera..

                    (wow im on EU site.. the 3554ci is out!)
                    Correct.
                    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                    • Tricky
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                      #25
                      Re: Kyocera 2-series Question

                      Originally posted by bronco31

                      (wow im on EU site.. the 3554ci is out!)
                      Yes, the machine is a 2554 and when initially unboxed comes up with a one time menu to add a speed license to turn it into a 3554.

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                      • KYO_OEM
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                        #26
                        Re: Kyocera 2-series Question

                        This is not correct, sorry.
                        25ppm + 35ppm no license key available, see attachment......
                        Attached Files

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                        • bronco31
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                          #27
                          Re: Kyocera 2-series Question

                          so a 25xxci is really a firmware crippled 35xxci

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                          • BillyCarpenter
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                            #28
                            Re: Kyocera 2-series Question

                            Originally posted by KYO_OEM
                            This is not correct, sorry.
                            25ppm + 35ppm no license key available, see attachment......

                            Very interesting. Thanks, KYO.
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                            • KYO_OEM
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                              #29
                              Re: Kyocera 2-series Question

                              Today now i installed our first 2554ci prelauch system.

                              @skynet
                              sorry, you are right!

                              I found 2 labels for 25ppm + 35ppm inside from box
                              But we can`t order license for 35ppm at the moment.
                              Now we are waiting for toner to start analysing/ testing and so on.

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                              • Samanator
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                                Sorry to be late to the party.

                                When the xx52ci and xx02i series came out, the fusees didn't seem to last as long as they should. It didn't seem to matter if it was big machines or little machines, the fusers just didn't seem to be going their life. I think it was on this forum I ran across a solution that I have incorporated into setup.

                                U346 > Selecting Sleep Mode > Fuser Power Mode > Off > Start > Machine will call for reboot > Reboot the machine

                                Since incorporating the above into my setup and deploying out in the field, I have experienced waaaay less problems with the fusers on theses models. I continue to do this with the 3 and 4 series. In fact any Kyocera model that has the option of U346 > Selecting Sleep Mode > Fuser Power Mode, I turn it off.

                                I think that leaving Fuser Power Mode on makes the fuser stay on most all the time causing premature wear. Kyocera may have address this with firmware, but I still turn Fuser Power Mode off.

                                I hope this helps.

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