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  • StratManDan
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    • Nov 2018
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    CS 8002i Jamming when duplexing

    Hi guys and girls,

    I've got a Kyocera CS 8002i in the field that has had an on going issue of jamming when in duplex mode. In the past, I've removed the fuser, the switch-back unit, and the job separator unit, and cleaned all the paper path sensors. Usually this does the trick. I've checked the sensors in U031, and all seems to be working properly.

    The Jam codes I've seen on the event log points to J64XX DF Exit Sensor, to J42XX Fuser Exit Sensor. I always try to look at the jam location before and after these locations. So far, I've had no luck in exorcising this demon.

    Any ideas out there where I might look to resolve this issue?

    Thanks!
  • blackcat4866
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    • Jul 2007
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    Re: CS 8002i Jamming when duplexing

    If you're over 750K most likely the exit sensor is worn flat, like the 8003i, 8002i, 8001i, 8000i, 6551ci, they're all the same. Because the parts take a long time, I do the paperclip trick ... photo?:

    Exit switch MacGuyver.JPG

    =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    • tmaged
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      • Oct 2008
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      #3
      Re: CS 8002i Jamming when duplexing

      For the 64xx finisher jam, look for threads on here. Updating to the new sensor in bulletin H020 seems to resolve those jam codes. It doesn't mention jamming in the bulletin, but guys here have pointed me to it, and it fixed my issues. Takes a while to do, though.
      Hope that helps !
      -Tony
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      • Scott
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        • Dec 2009
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        #4
        Re: CS 8002i Jamming when duplexing

        Black cat nailed it!

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        • StratManDan
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          • Nov 2018
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          #5
          Re: CS 8002i Jamming when duplexing

          Neat idea Black Cat,

          How do you get the paper clip to stay attached?

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          • blackcat4866
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            Re: CS 8002i Jamming when duplexing

            Clean the parts with alcohol to insure a good bond. Then mix up a few drops of 10-minute setting, 2-part epoxy. I use the remaining piece of paper clip to apply a very thin layer of epoxy to the edges of the original flag. Set the paper clip-edge into the epoxy, and nudge it into that perfect position.

            Then the hard part: not touching it for 20 minutes.

            The paperclip will outlast a new flag. =^..^=
            Last edited by blackcat4866; 08-31-2021, 12:53 AM.
            If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
            1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
            3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
            4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

            blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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            • bsm2
              IT Manager

              25,000+ Posts
              • Feb 2008
              • 27128

              #7
              Re: CS 8002i Jamming when duplexing

              Old School trick No worries I am sure Kyocera will come out their usual Mylar fix

              MITA = Mylar is the answer

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              • fishleg
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                • Mar 2009
                • 411

                #8
                Re: CS 8002i Jamming when duplexing

                Originally posted by blackcat4866
                If you're over 750K most likely the exit sensor is worn flat, like the 8003i, 8002i, 8001i, 8000i, 6551ci, they're all the same. Because the parts take a long time, I do the paperclip trick ... photo?:

                [ATTACH=CONFIG]50044[/ATTACH]

                =^..^=
                Wow very clever that would definitely get you out of a sticky situation. I'll remember that one .

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                • BillyCarpenter
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                  #9
                  Re: CS 8002i Jamming when duplexing

                  Originally posted by blackcat4866
                  Clean the parts with alcohol to insure a good bond. Then mix up a few drops of 10-minute setting, 2-part epoxy. I use the remaining piece of paper clip to apply a very thin layer of epoxy to the edges of the original flag. Set the paper clip-edge into the epoxy, and nudge it into that perfect position.

                  Then the hard part: not touching it for 20 minutes.

                  The paperclip will outlast a new flag. =^..^=

                  I've used 2 part epoxy on several things. One of those tings was a bar top.

                  Just curious if anyone has ever used baking soda + super glue?
                  Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                  • blackcat4866
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                    Re: CS 8002i Jamming when duplexing

                    The last few batches that I've gotten of superglue have been completely worthless. I believe somebody must have glued themself to a work project then sued the glue manufacturer. As a result all the things that made superglue really work had to be removed.

                    I've entirely switched over to epoxy. =^..^=
                    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                    • Santander
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                      500+ Posts
                      • May 2009
                      • 768

                      #11
                      Re: CS 8002i Jamming when duplexing

                      Originally posted by blackcat4866
                      The last few batches that I've gotten of superglue have been completely worthless. I believe somebody must have glued themself to a work project then sued the glue manufacturer. As a result all the things that made superglue really work had to be removed.

                      I've entirely switched over to epoxy. =^..^=
                      Agreed, the current superglue does not bond much of anything anymore. I switched to the Gorilla superglue and it works much better. It adheres to most plastics but it does take a little longer to set.

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                      • tmaged
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                        • Oct 2008
                        • 1791

                        #12
                        Re: CS 8002i Jamming when duplexing

                        Krazyglue @ CVS has a brush. Good stuff for parts and to glue finger cuts back together.
                        Hope that helps !
                        -Tony
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