Add more edge erase on printing? 8353ci

[Ropariva]

Re: Add more edge erase on printing? 8353ci

Thanks. I noticed the gutter setting actually I'll play with that if I cant get u34 and u66 to work. I'd have to learn more about them prescribe commands before I'd go there not that desperate yet lol.

Just tired of seeing all these machines wrap on high coverage its like constant almost every machine. I did get one to work by doing u34 and changing the start timing. I wish I had took pictures I'm probably not explaining it the best.

What was strange I altered U34 start timing on one and that moved the image over and the next machine no matter what I put the start timing at it wouldn't move the image. It was late on a Friday and the machine was very busy so might of been me just being silly.

I found it handy to get a PDF onto my USB key that was having the wrap issue. I now use this as my test chart for lead edge start position. Pretty much every machine out of the box does not have this set so that lead and trailing edge void is the same. Often the settings for all paper sources are zero or under. These I now routinely set (all sources) from +1 to +1.5

[fishleg]

Re: Add more edge erase on printing? 8353ci

I found it handy to get a PDF onto my USB key that was having the wrap issue. I now use this as my test chart for lead edge start position. Pretty much every machine out of the box does not have this set so that lead and trailing edge void is the same. Often the settings for all paper sources are zero or under. These I now routinely set (all sources) from +1 to +1.5

Bang on tried it today 2 machines exact same problem printing full colour pictures.

u034 Start timing and yup your right I did +1.5 on mine from 0 on start timing 3/4 Cassete(L)

What is very confusing is for me its always A4 from the bottom 2 trays and the customer was printing full colour on both the front and back of the sheet. I got it sorted for the front side but then the backside would cause the issue... just to make things even more confusing you would think start timing 3/4 Duplex(L) would move the image on the second side well it doesnt, to sort the back you go into start timing without the 3/4 and change the Duplex(L) +1.5.

I guess the L stands for Long feed and S short feed?

u66 is to do with scanning when I looked but anyway u034 is the one . I'm still a bit shocked print margins (u405 i think) doesn't effect print jobs.

[blackcat4866]

Re: Add more edge erase on printing? 8353ci

... I guess the L stands for Long feed and S short feed? ...

L is for "Large" paper sizes: LGL & LGR
S is for "Small" paper sizes: LTR, LTR-R, and STMT

It's a bit confusing. =^..^=

[PrintWhisperer]

Re: Add more edge erase on printing? 8353ci

I guess the L stands for Long feed and S short feed?

u66 is to do with scanning when I looked but anyway u034 is the one . I'm still a bit shocked print margins (u405 i think) doesn't effect print jobs.

U402-5 should be labeled erase margins so it would explain why they do not effect the Print image position.

Use 24lb paper to reduce jamming on high coverage.

You don't have to worry about Prescribe causing any problems that cannot be undone by FRPO INIT; but it's beside the point as you are doing driver printing.

Prescribe isn't just a forms language, it is the DEFAULT print environment command structure. It already has things like the default font (courier) and tray but they ONLY take effect when an incoming print file doesn't have an OVERRIDING command, which the application provides to the print driver.

Prepress modifications are Fiery CWS type stuff so not much control in standard RIPing.

Margins are almost always the job of the application. That is why there are no settings in the driver.

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: Add more edge erase on printing? 8353ci

U402-5 should be labeled erase margins so it would explain why they do not effect the Print image position.

Use 24lb paper to reduce jamming on high coverage.

You don't have to worry about Prescribe causing any problems that cannot be undone by FRPO INIT; but it's beside the point as you are doing driver printing.

Prescribe isn't just a forms language, it is the DEFAULT print environment command structure. It already has things like the default font (courier) and tray but they ONLY take effect when an incoming print file doesn't have an OVERRIDING command, which the application provides to the print driver.

Prepress modifications are Fiery CWS type stuff so not much control in standard RIPing.

Margins are almost always the job of the application. That is why there are no settings in the driver.

First things first. I enjoy your posts as they are very informative. But I'm curious and any of the Kyocera trained techs can weigh in on this. Do the Kyocera classes teach this in-depth knowledge or how did you pick this up? Thanks in advance.

[PrintWhisperer]

[blackcat4866]

Re: Add more edge erase on printing? 8353ci

I got most of my, uh, experience ... with a customer that was sending PostScript print data from a home-made DOS-based application, using the print driver as a pass through only.

They had hundreds of HP 5si printers used to print ledger sized architectural drawings, and the HP's did not have enough internal memory to accept a job with 100 pages of architectural drawings. Their home-made application broke the 100 page PDF document into 100 one page jobs, already in Postscript, but did not have manufacturer specific tray selections, media selections, etc, that the driver would have provided.

By the time I came on the scene, there was still one of the original engineers that had written the application many years earlier. I would take print data captures, and isolate the specific commands that needed to be inserted. Then I'd take a sample print job and insert the appropriate commands, and test it on one of our Kyoceras. Some of these commands were PJL, some PostScript, some PreScribe.

I learned early to load only 5 pages to the MFP. A messed up print command could generate 200 pages of PostScript error. PostScript2 was easy. The commands were in plain text. PostScript3 commands were encrypted, so the prepend might be 1000 characters, none in readable text. Good times! =^..^=