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  • masky
    Technician
    • Aug 2010
    • 49

    #1

    PA4000x problems

    Colleagues, I'll soon have several PA4000x printers replacing the famous P2040dn. I'd like to know if these machines also suffer from the fixing unit problems, since the P2040s with their FK-1150s always had problems. I see the FK is different, so I'm asking if it's confirmed that this problem has been fixed. I'd also like to know what the problems are with this model, even though it's relatively new.
  • copykat93
    Trusted Tech

    Site Contributor
    250+ Posts
    • Oct 2021
    • 270

    #2
    Following this post, because I am in same position... hopefully the fusers are way better and last the yield it's stated for

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    • tmaged
      Owner/Service Manager

      Site Contributor
      1,000+ Posts
      • Oct 2008
      • 1865

      #3
      Do a search on here. KYO_OEM posted the design characteristics of the new fusing unit vs old. It's been totally redesigned, but it's too early to tell if it will be reliable.
      Hope that helps !
      -Tony
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      • KYO_OEM
        Senior Tech

        500+ Posts
        • Aug 2011
        • 707

        #4
        FYI,
        KDC designed new FK 115x, coming soon .
        Diff against FK from Libra2 series. (e.g. with new press roller)
        Don't know which one will work better, or if KDC will use it for both series in near future.
        Hope and pray

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        • Ropariva
          Senior Tech

          500+ Posts
          • Mar 2016
          • 642

          #5
          Can you please do 30-40k prints on one and let me know how it goes as I’m also hoping this issue has been fixed.
          I’m also hoping they took a look at the equivalent HP fuser that has no issue doing 200k.
          Fingers crossed!

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          • masky
            Technician
            • Aug 2010
            • 49

            #6
            It is understandable that for now we have to wait, as of today Kyocera has NOT published physical modification bulletins, only firmware bulletins.

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            • Tonerkiller
              Senior Tech

              500+ Posts
              • Oct 2012
              • 667

              #7
              They have been working great for us.

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              • Kyodogs
                Junior Member
                • Apr 2024
                • 9

                #8
                They made changes to the FK 115x's how many times now? maybe 4?

                We see the part number change and pray... how many times does it take to get it right??
                PS I have seen and other members here have already seen the toner accumulating on the pressure roller in the "NEW" PA/MA4500 series.

                Sleep timers/heat increase/paperweight changes do nothing to help this.
                Keep cleaning those rollers fellas and pray for success at Kyocera
                It seems that it is easier to just warranty the item rather than to fix it.

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                • KYO_OEM
                  Senior Tech

                  500+ Posts
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 707

                  #9
                  Now rev.7 is coming....
                  Changed force to the sliding sheet and new designed press roller.
                  But it will be available after usage from old stock only.
                  No company (KDA, KDE, KDAU or else) will publish bulletins regarding new parts, if they have high old stock, or new parts are not available.
                  Ropariva,
                  30-40k test run with 26ppm system?
                  It's not a good idea, i think.

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                  • Lunatech
                    Trusted Tech

                    100+ Posts
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 194

                    #10
                    Originally posted by KYO_OEM
                    30-40k test run with 26ppm system?
                    It's not a good idea, i think.
                    And yet our customers do it all the time, and that is about as long as a fuser will last.

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                    • Ropariva
                      Senior Tech

                      500+ Posts
                      • Mar 2016
                      • 642

                      #11
                      Originally posted by KYO_OEM
                      Now rev.7 is coming....
                      Changed force to the sliding sheet and new designed press roller.
                      But it will be available after usage from old stock only.
                      No company (KDA, KDE, KDAU or else) will publish bulletins regarding new parts, if they have high old stock, or new parts are not available.
                      Ropariva,
                      30-40k test run with 26ppm system?
                      It's not a good idea, i think.
                      Yeah, but if Kyocera think the full life of these printers should be 30k, then they haven’t done their due diligence. I’m seeing many clients pushing these to 150k plus in their lifetime. As I mentioned, the equivalent HP devices will easily last this without a fuser change, and by no means am I a HP fan. Just stating the facts.

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                      • Lunatech
                        Trusted Tech

                        100+ Posts
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 194

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Ropariva

                        Yeah, but if Kyocera think the full life of these printers should be 30k, then they haven’t done their due diligence. I’m seeing many clients pushing these to 150k plus in their lifetime. As I mentioned, the equivalent HP devices will easily last this without a fuser change, and by no means am I a HP fan. Just stating the facts.
                        We have many of these with near and over 100K. Have had to do maintenance kits on several. The annoying thing about the kit is there is no fuser in it and the fuser is the weakest part of the entire unit. Our guys were selling these on the premise of being just as good as an HP. Really, if not for the fuser it would be true. The fuser is easy to change and I have it down to a science as far as tearing it down, removing the cloth and greasing plate. This only gets you another 25K+-. If the reengineered fuser can go somewhere near expected life it would be awesome.

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