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  • subaro
    Service Manager

    1,000+ Posts
    • Oct 2010
    • 1274

    #16
    Re: Cheaters

    Originally posted by NeoMatrix
    I have a door cheat similar 'L' shape design with slots cut here and there for various makes and models.
    It was original an ooooldddd Toshiba door cheat. I modified it over the years for Canon, Ricoh ,Sharp, and Brother; and just recently Xerox.
    It's not always a perfect fit for every slot but it does the job.
    good sir. If i may ask, could you post a pic of your device on your spare time. thks.

    someone mentioned paper. while that is the first thing we would all grab in a rush, i have had too many headaches with paper, that i will never use it again, unless in a desperate situation, which i think is very unlikely. cut, fit,trim and still fiddle,fiddle a leo o for it to stay.
    some machines you have to use two or three at a time and if paper jam ect. and you have to remove and set again on first insert to continue and a cheater is not working right, it can drive one nuts in the troubleshooting process. my take anyway.
    THE ONLY THING FOR EVIL TO TRIUMPH IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING..........edmund burke

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    • ZOOTECH
      Senior member of CRS

      Site Contributor
      2,500+ Posts
      • Jul 2007
      • 3375

      #17
      Re: Cheaters

      Cheaters.jpg

      On the left is a Canon cheater (aluminum), the center is a hard resin cheater (origins unknown), and the right one looks like a home made cheater of aluminum.
      "You can't trust your eyes, if your mind is out of focus" --

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      • Iowatech
        Not a service manager

        2,500+ Posts
        • Dec 2009
        • 3930

        #18
        Re: Cheaters

        Originally posted by ZOOTECH
        I'll post a photo tomorrow of the one I have, but don't use (haven't seen a Canon in ages).
        I'll do that as well if you want.

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        • NeoMatrix
          Senior Tech.

          2,500+ Posts
          • Nov 2010
          • 3513

          #19
          Re: Cheaters

          Originally posted by subaro
          good sir. If i may ask, could you post a pic of your device on your spare time. thks.

          someone mentioned paper. while that is the first thing we would all grab in a rush, i have had too many headaches with paper, that i will never use it again, unless in a desperate situation, which i think is very unlikely. cut, fit,trim and still fiddle,fiddle a leo o for it to stay.
          some machines you have to use two or three at a time and if paper jam ect. and you have to remove and set again on first insert to continue and a cheater is not working right, it can drive one nuts in the troubleshooting process. my take anyway.
          Re : Photo.
          If you have a look at Zootech last post; I have an old Toshiba door cheat identical to the one in the center of the photo. Zootech has also filed a slot into the small tail section identical to what I've done; which allows it to be used in Canon machines. I also have slots filed into the right angle radius arc at different positions for other machines Ricoh, Brother etc. I use to have a Canon one (left side of photo) but lost it years ago.

          HTH
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          • tsbservice
            Field tech

            Site Contributor
            5,000+ Posts
            • May 2007
            • 8019

            #20
            Re: Cheaters

            Old but good thread. Personally I never had problem to fabricate door jig from paper sheet but kinda like the idea of using rubber/silicone hose.
            A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
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            • blackcat4866
              Master Of The Obvious

              Site Contributor
              10,000+ Posts
              • Jul 2007
              • 23008

              #21
              Re: Cheaters

              Originally posted by tsbservice
              Old but good thread. Personally I never had problem to fabricate door jig from paper sheet but kinda like the idea of using rubber/silicone hose.
              I don't know what happened to my Canon cheater. I have two of the Konica Minolta versions. For the last couple of decades I've used either 1/4" vinyl tubing or 1/8" rubber fuel line. =^..^=
              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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              • srvctec
                Former KM Senior Tech

                500+ Posts
                • Oct 2009
                • 827

                #22
                Re: Cheaters

                I've just always used a piece of rubber that came on Minolta machines from 3 decades ago or so, used to hold parts away from each other during shipping (part of the packing materials) like the cleaning blade away from the drum or whatever. Also, I've used some small used feed roller rubber for the same thing.

                Here are the ones I've had for the last 3 decades or so.
                Started in the copier service business in the fall of 1988 and worked at the same company for 33.5 years, becoming the senior tech in 2004 but left to pursue another career on 4/29/22.

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                • Samanator
                  Service Manager

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                  500+ Posts
                  • Sep 2017
                  • 579

                  #23
                  Re: Cheaters

                  Last cheater I had, left me for another guy

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                  • Gift
                    Service Manager

                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 2459

                    #24
                    Re: Cheaters

                    I also like these rubber tubes you can find with ricoh toner pumps for example..

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                    • Rusty.Harris
                      Senior Tech

                      Site Contributor
                      500+ Posts
                      • Jan 2021
                      • 632

                      #25
                      Re: Cheaters

                      I'm old school (literally and by age LOL)

                      I still use my old Toshiba BD-3301 "boot". Got it around 1990
                      If the top part doesn't work, the bottom of the boot usually wedges in to hold it
                      closed.


                      2022-01-17_11-24-46.jpg

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