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  • digicor
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    • Jul 2008
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    MPC6502 fuser to an MPC8002

    Is there anyway to make the C6502 fuser convert and work in a C8002?
    i know it fits right in but it wont recognize it , i know this, but is it a pin in the connector that can be switched?
    or it just wont work?
    i have a like new fuser from a 6502 and need one for the 8002...
    Thanks for any info
  • slimslob
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    Re: MPC6502 fuser to an MPC8002

    The major difference is the voltage. The C6502 is a 120Volt model where as the C8002 is a 240Volt. The same goes for the pressure roller lamps and Induction Heaters. There is either a jumper on the connector or an ID chip on the fusing unit frame to protect against blowing the 100V lamps and IH coils should you put a C6502 fusing unit into a C8502.

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    • digicor
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      #3
      Re: MPC6502 fuser to an MPC8002

      then it just cant be done, Thanks i figured as much but i tought ide ask

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      • butcher
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        • Dec 2009
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        #4
        Re: MPC6502 fuser to an MPC8002

        Originally posted by digicor
        Is there anyway to make the C6502 fuser convert and work in a C8002?
        i know it fits right in but it wont recognize it , i know this, but is it a pin in the connector that can be switched?
        or it just wont work?
        i have a like new fuser from a 6502 and need one for the 8002...
        Thanks for any info
        Hi Mate,
        I'm pretty sure these are the same animal, the only difference being the C6502 being a 65ppm unit and C8002 being an 80PPM unit.
        From where I am ( Australia ) , The fuser is the same.

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        • davel
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          #5
          Re: MPC6502 fuser to an MPC8002

          Everything 240v in Oz, I think both need to be on a 15A outlet, different voltages in US must be a pain.

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          • slimslob
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            Re: MPC6502 fuser to an MPC8002

            Originally posted by butcher
            Hi Mate,
            I'm pretty sure these are the same animal, the only difference being the C6502 being a 65ppm unit and C8002 being an 80PPM unit.
            From where I am ( Australia ) , The fuser is the same.
            In Australia YES. But the person asking is in North America. Check your Parts Catalog and you will see that for North America (NA) the C6502 fusing unit, pressure roller heater and IH coil are different.

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            • slimslob
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              Re: MPC6502 fuser to an MPC8002

              Originally posted by davel
              Everything 240v in Oz, I think both need to be on a 15A outlet, different voltages in US must be a pain.
              I have worked on both. The customer who got the C8502 was actually a Ricoh ship in but Ricoh failed to tell them that it would require 240 Volt outlet. Had to delay delivery and setup a day while they got an electrician out to install the required circuit.

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              • mga
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                #8
                Re: MPC6502 fuser to an MPC8002

                Originally posted by digicor
                Is there anyway to make the C6502 fuser convert and work in a C8002?
                i know it fits right in but it wont recognize it , i know this, but is it a pin in the connector that can be switched?
                or it just wont work?
                i have a like new fuser from a 6502 and need one for the 8002...
                Thanks for any info
                In the uk they are the same fusers 100% I would of thought if both machines would of been made for the usa the ie 120 volts they would be the same but slimslob is in usa and has the correct part manual so he may be correct good luck.
                Regards Mark

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                • skinnyb
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                  #9
                  Re: MPC6502 fuser to an MPC8002

                  Originally posted by mga
                  In the uk they are the same fusers 100% I would of thought if both machines would of been made for the usa the ie 120 volts they would be the same but slimslob is in usa and has the correct part manual so he may be correct good luck.
                  Definitely different in US. 6502 is 120v and 8002 is 208v. It is a pain especially upon initial install when the customer doesn't have the correct power...

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                  • mga
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                    Re: MPC6502 fuser to an MPC8002

                    Originally posted by skinnyb
                    Definitely different in US. 6502 is 120v and 8002 is 208v. It is a pain especially upon initial install when the customer doesn't have the correct power...

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                    Thank you for confirming skinnyb I knew slimslob would of be correct {he is most of the time} different voltages sounds like we a bit better of having 240v. Stay safe
                    Regards Mark

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                    • digicor
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                      #11
                      Re: MPC6502 fuser to an MPC8002

                      Originally posted by butcher
                      Hi Mate,
                      I'm pretty sure these are the same animal, the only difference being the C6502 being a 65ppm unit and C8002 being an 80PPM unit.
                      From where I am ( Australia ) , The fuser is the same.
                      it fits it just says "re set fusing unit" or something like that, it does not see it as installed.

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                      • mga
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                        #12
                        Re: MPC6502 fuser to an MPC8002

                        Originally posted by digicor
                        it fits it just says "re set fusing unit" or something like that, it does not see it as installed.
                        As slimslob and skinnyb said in the usa THEY NOT compatible
                        Regards Mark

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                        • slimslob
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                          Re: MPC6502 fuser to an MPC8002

                          Originally posted by digicor
                          it fits it just says "re set fusing unit" or something like that, it does not see it as installed.
                          Most machines that I have worked on that have different fusing units for NA 120 volt and everyone else 240 volt have a jumper on the fusing unit that tells it what voltage the fusing unit is for. 120 volts heaters last about 5 seconds when hit with 240 volts. On the other hand 240 volt lamps will not reach operating temperature at 120 volt. Had a new tech order an international sleeve for an 03 once.

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                          • fshead
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                            #14
                            Re: MPC6502 fuser to an MPC8002

                            why not swap out the fuser lamps from the bad fuser to the new one?

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                            • anothertech
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                              #15
                              Re: MPC6502 fuser to an MPC8002

                              Originally posted by fshead
                              why not swap out the fuser lamps from the bad fuser to the new one?
                              Might be better to take all of the good parts from the new fuser to rebuild the used fuser.

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