MPC3503 FUSER SLEEVE assembly with lamp into a MC4503

[fshead]

HI
I tried to look up the lamp wattage on the mpc4503 and mpc3503 and did not find it.
I have a mpc4503 machine that chewed up all the gears and the sleeve has small nicks.
Meter is 300k.
I swapped one from a shop mpc4503 and need to rebuild it.
Dont have a mpc4503 fuser leeve with lamp assembly.
I have a mpc3503 fuser sleeve assembly with the lamp etc etc.
I assume the c3503 lamp is different than the mpc4503?
this is 120 volt usa use.
Can i just swap out the lamps?

[mga]

Re: MPC3503 FUSER SLEEVE assembly with lamp into a MC4503

HI
I tried to look up the lamp wattage on the mpc4503 and mpc3503 and did not find it.
I have a mpc4503 machine that chewed up all the gears and the sleeve has small nicks.
Meter is 300k.
I swapped one from a shop mpc4503 and need to rebuild it.
Dont have a mpc4503 fuser leeve with lamp assembly.
I have a mpc3503 fuser sleeve assembly with the lamp etc etc.
I assume the c3503 lamp is different than the mpc4503?
this is 120 volt usa use.
Can i just swap out the lamps?

They have different part numbers but you can use any sleeve assy from mpc2003 up to 6003

[tsbservice]

Re: MPC3503 FUSER SLEEVE assembly with lamp into a MC4503

Dunno that models but in some service manuals lamp wattage is actually mentioned. Seems to recall some old machines I worked on have lamps wattage labeled on them.

[FrohnB]

Re: MPC3503 FUSER SLEEVE assembly with lamp into a MC4503

They have different part numbers but you can use any sleeve assy from mpc2003 up to 6003

Are you sure about this?
I think you get a SC code if you try to use C2003 in the faster models, and vice versa.

Going to have to attempt this for myself later on, when I get back to the shop.

[copier tech]

Re: MPC3503 FUSER SLEEVE assembly with lamp into a MC4503

HI
I tried to look up the lamp wattage on the mpc4503 and mpc3503 and did not find it.
I have a mpc4503 machine that chewed up all the gears and the sleeve has small nicks.
Meter is 300k.
I swapped one from a shop mpc4503 and need to rebuild it.
Dont have a mpc4503 fuser leeve with lamp assembly.
I have a mpc3503 fuser sleeve assembly with the lamp etc etc.
I assume the c3503 lamp is different than the mpc4503?
this is 120 volt usa use.
Can i just swap out the lamps?

In The UK (240v) the same sleeve ass'y inc lamps fits on all METIS even though the part numbers are different.

[slimslob]

Re: MPC3503 FUSER SLEEVE assembly with lamp into a MC4503

They have different part numbers but you can use any sleeve assy from mpc2003 up to 6003

As long as it is for the same region as you are in. A 240 volt sleeve in a 110 or 120 volt machine will not reach operating temperature and code. A 110 or 120 volt sleeve in a 240 volt machine will have the lamps burn out in a few seconds.

[slimslob]

Re: MPC3503 FUSER SLEEVE assembly with lamp into a MC4503

Are you sure about this?
I think you get a SC code if you try to use C2003 in the faster models, and vice versa.

Going to have to attempt this for myself later on, when I get back to the shop.

I don't know if the C2003/C2503 sleeve will code but I still wouldn't use one unless absolutely necessary. The C2003/C2503 sleeve has a PM cycle of only 240K as opposed to 400K for the faster models.

The parts catalogs I have show one part number for all models except the C2003/C2503 in North America, 120 volt.

[slimslob]

Re: MPC3503 FUSER SLEEVE assembly with lamp into a MC4503

HI
I tried to look up the lamp wattage on the mpc4503 and mpc3503 and did not find it.
I have a mpc4503 machine that chewed up all the gears and the sleeve has small nicks.
Meter is 300k.
I swapped one from a shop mpc4503 and need to rebuild it.
Dont have a mpc4503 fuser leeve with lamp assembly.
I have a mpc3503 fuser sleeve assembly with the lamp etc etc.
I assume the c3503 lamp is different than the mpc4503?
this is 120 volt usa use.
Can i just swap out the lamps?

You should be able to swap the entire sleeve unit. The only time you want to attempt swapping lamps is if you have one sleeve unit with bad lamps but a good sleeve and another with good lamps and a torn sleeve. It is not fun.

[anothertech]

Re: MPC3503 FUSER SLEEVE assembly with lamp into a MC4503

I had to go take a MP C3503 sleeve out of an MP C4503 that someone put in by mistake. It cause intermittant fuser codes. The wattage is different.

[blackcat4866]

Re: MPC3503 FUSER SLEEVE assembly with lamp into a MC4503

Dunno that models but in some service manuals lamp wattage is actually mentioned. Seems to recall some old machines I worked on have lamps wattage labeled on them.

+1. Every halogen lamp I ever handled has volt and and watts specifications printed right on the ceramic end. I would be very surprised if they were rated the same though. =^..^=

[fshead]

Re: MPC3503 FUSER SLEEVE assembly with lamp into a MC4503

Are you sure about this?
I think you get a SC code if you try to use C2003 in the faster models, and vice versa.

Going to have to attempt this for myself later on, when I get back to the shop.

my concern is the faster units need more wattage to maintain heat and the warmup times are so fast too.
I would think you could use a mpc4503 sleeve on mpc2003 to mpc3503 but not the other way.
I have not pulled the fuser apart yet to check.Will visit when i have the time to do the full job as i hate
leaving units sitting apart..

[Phil B.]

Re: MPC3503 FUSER SLEEVE assembly with lamp into a MC4503

In The UK (240v) the same sleeve ass'y inc lamps fits on all METIS even though the part numbers are different.

what about the USA anyone know?

[fshead]

Re: MPC3503 FUSER SLEEVE assembly with lamp into a MC4503

In The UK (240v) the same sleeve ass'y inc lamps fits on all METIS even though the part numbers are different.

240volt s might be why it does.
here in usa we have 120 volts..half of the UK.

[fshead]

Re: MPC3503 FUSER SLEEVE assembly with lamp into a MC4503

You should be able to swap the entire sleeve unit. The only time you want to attempt swapping lamps is if you have one sleeve unit with bad lamps but a good sleeve and another with good lamps and a torn sleeve. It is not fun.

I just want to get my shop fuser back b4 customer goes in with a pen or envelope opener
to remove a jam..
MY thought is the bad sleeve has the correct lamp so if i swap it into a mpc3503 sleeve it should work..
I am thinking the high temp lube on the inner cotton that sits inside sleeve is gone and that caused the white drive gears to wear down...

[anothertech]

Re: MPC3503 FUSER SLEEVE assembly with lamp into a MC4503

I just want to get my shop fuser back b4 customer goes in with a pen or envelope opener
to remove a jam..
MY thought is the bad sleeve has the correct lamp so if i swap it into a mpc3503 sleeve it should work..
I am thinking the high temp lube on the inner cotton that sits inside sleeve is gone and that caused the white drive gears to wear down...

FUSING UNIT 3 GEARS - RESISTANCE TO ABRASION.pdf

The sleeve itself is the same, so yes you can take the sleeve off and put it on the old lamp. Looks like they have grease at ebay. The fuser probably had the old style gears, the new style gears last a lot longer.