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  • MIGUELMARCHENA
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    • Feb 2018
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    #31
    Re: No black on colour prints and colour test page on ricoh mpc4503

    What things are.

    Today it is service in a town two hours away. so bring what you need to maintain MPC5503, MP 4054 x 2 and MP4000. On the way I received a message from a woman from the same town.

    As attached in the pdf, the lady told me that the black copy was not coming out... the sheet came out blank so she lowered the black unit, "cleaned" it and then went to install it again, she damaged the cylinder, removed film etc. dusted 'black (revealing).

    I didn't have a cylinder for 2503, so I had to remove the ends to be able to adapt the one from 5503 to 2503.. I put new developer etc.. nothing...copy without black. so I removed the end plugs again and adjusted the ground (pole to ground) of the cylinder...that was the problem...there was no pole to ground ground in the cylinder).

    Now,spectacular copy and printing.
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    • luca72
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      • Oct 2017
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      #32
      Re: No black on colour prints and colour test page on ricoh mpc4503

      Originally posted by MIGUELMARCHENA
      What things are.

      Today it is service in a town two hours away. so bring what you need to maintain MPC5503, MP 4054 x 2 and MP4000. On the way I received a message from a woman from the same town.

      As attached in the pdf, the lady told me that the black copy was not coming out... the sheet came out blank so she lowered the black unit, "cleaned" it and then went to install it again, she damaged the cylinder, removed film etc. dusted 'black (revealing).

      I didn't have a cylinder for 2503, so I had to remove the ends to be able to adapt the one from 5503 to 2503.. I put new developer etc.. nothing...copy without black. so I removed the end plugs again and adjusted the ground (pole to ground) of the cylinder...that was the problem...there was no pole to ground ground in the cylinder).

      Now,spectacular copy and printing.

      yes, metoo, today I fixed an mpc2051 that didn't print black, it was the developer unit broken, but our friend pixtech framwork, says he changed the entire pcdu, and the problem is still there, we hope he remembers to let us know how to solve it, and that it doesn't fall into oblivion
      "loneliness is an invention of the white man, when we are alone we talk to everything around us, we are never alone" (Ojibwa)

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      • MIGUELMARCHENA
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        #33
        Re: No black on colour prints and colour test page on ricoh mpc4503

        Originally posted by luca72
        yes, metoo, today I fixed an mpc2051 that didn't print black, it was the developer unit broken, but our friend pixtech framwork, says he changed the entire pcdu, and the problem is still there, we hope he remembers to let us know how to solve it, and that it doesn't fall into oblivion
        Friends, he explains it clearly.


        I give you the idea of ​​the mass or ground pole of the machine in that black sector, because that absence of mass or ground pole generates a blank copy.


        Already in mind you know that the unit is not, it concentrates on the machine... well that's what I do


        It's interesting, you learn without suffering.

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        • luca72
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          #34
          Re: No black on colour prints and colour test page on ricoh mpc4503

          Originally posted by MIGUELMARCHENA
          Friends, he explains it clearly.


          I give you the idea of ​​the mass or ground pole of the machine in that black sector, because that absence of mass or ground pole generates a blank copy.


          Already in mind you know that the unit is not, it concentrates on the machine... well that's what I do


          It's interesting, you learn without suffering.
          "real artists copy...real geniuses steal"*

          *Picasso
          "loneliness is an invention of the white man, when we are alone we talk to everything around us, we are never alone" (Ojibwa)

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          • Pixtech Frameworks
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            • May 2020
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            #35
            Re: No black on colour prints and colour test page on ricoh mpc4503

            Originally posted by luca72
            yes, metoo, today I fixed an mpc2051 that didn't print black, it was the developer unit broken, but our friend pixtech framwork, says he changed the entire pcdu, and the problem is still there, we hope he remembers to let us know how to solve it, and that it doesn't fall into oblivion
            Am still battling the nightmare. This is strange, after swapping PCDU from another working machine, problems persist. This is strange.

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            • tsbservice
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              #36
              Re: No black on colour prints and colour test page on ricoh mpc4503

              Originally posted by Pixtech Frameworks
              Am still battling the nightmare. This is strange, after swapping PCDU from another working machine, problems persist. This is strange.
              I had one brand new KM machine where at the installation one color was completely missing sorry don't remember which one. Turned out that ribbon cable to laser unit was damaged and after cutting carefully a bit of damaged leads color appear
              Not necessarily your case but just something to consider. Good luck 🤞
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              • Pixtech Frameworks
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                #37
                Re: No black on colour prints and colour test page on ricoh mpc4503

                Solution found guys,
                Polygon box was the curpit. After several weeks of non activeess in the machine, I remembered I had a dead and forgotten 6003 polygon box at the store, I inserted it on the 4503, behold black colour came out like magic, reinstalled old polygon box same no black.
                Thanks guys.

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                • luca72
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                  • Oct 2017
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                  #38
                  Re: No black on colour prints and colour test page on ricoh mpc4503

                  Originally posted by Pixtech Frameworks
                  Solution found guys,
                  Polygon box was the curpit. After several weeks of non activeess in the machine, I remembered I had a dead and forgotten 6003 polygon box at the store, I inserted it on the 4503, behold black colour came out like magic, reinstalled old polygon box same no black.
                  Thanks guys.

                  Thanks for the feedback, you never know what might happen to me.
                  I see that that model has only one polygon motor, and it printed white without SC codes(!)...maybe the machine took some hits, and some mirrors or lenses from the black PCDU came off(?)
                  "loneliness is an invention of the white man, when we are alone we talk to everything around us, we are never alone" (Ojibwa)

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                  • benmja
                    Technician
                    • Nov 2023
                    • 10

                    #39
                    Re: No black on colour prints and colour test page on ricoh mpc4503

                    I also have a no black problem, any chance you guys could help me out?

                    Samsung Xpress C480W prints color but not black

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                    • dalewb74
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                      • Feb 2018
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                      #40
                      Re: No black on colour prints and colour test page on ricoh mpc4503

                      help you? they just told you how it was fixed.....

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                      • benmja
                        Technician
                        • Nov 2023
                        • 10

                        #41
                        Re: No black on colour prints and colour test page on ricoh mpc4503

                        Well I am guessing this solution may be model specific? I have a Samsung C4800W. I googled and understand that a polygon box is the thing in the laser unit that mirrors the laser around. I have opened the laser scanner and it looks clean and normal for all I can see.

                        I also see mentions about "dv tank" "cam" and the black transfer roller. I can't decode what some of these things are. I have a transfer belt that I can take out.

                        For me also, all colors are fine (though maybe a bit weak?) but black. Would really appreciate possible solutions for my printer, as mentioned the link is above.

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                        • luca72
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                          • Oct 2017
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                          #42
                          Re: No black on colour prints and colour test page on ricoh mpc4503

                          Originally posted by MIGUELMARCHENA
                          What things are.

                          Today it is service in a town two hours away. so bring what you need to maintain MPC5503, MP 4054 x 2 and MP4000. On the way I received a message from a woman from the same town.

                          As attached in the pdf, the lady told me that the black copy was not coming out... the sheet came out blank so she lowered the black unit, "cleaned" it and then went to install it again, she damaged the cylinder, removed film etc. dusted 'black (revealing).

                          I didn't have a cylinder for 2503, so I had to remove the ends to be able to adapt the one from 5503 to 2503.. I put new developer etc.. nothing...copy without black. so I removed the end plugs again and adjusted the ground (pole to ground) of the cylinder...that was the problem...there was no pole to ground ground in the cylinder).

                          Now,spectacular copy and printing.
                          but who are you steve austin...the six million dollar man?...LOL..what did you use to remove the cap without destroying everything?...it's stuck with some machinery in a beastly way!...I've never succeeded.
                          "loneliness is an invention of the white man, when we are alone we talk to everything around us, we are never alone" (Ojibwa)

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                          • DeepRepair
                            Technician
                            • Nov 2023
                            • 22

                            #43
                            Re: No black on colour prints and colour test page on ricoh mpc4503

                            The problem is the laser, adjust the mirrors to 0 degrees and restart the laser unit

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