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  • piksel1983
    Technician
    • Oct 2018
    • 38

    #1

    C454e print problem

    Hello everyone.

    Does anyone have a print problem like on test page? What can make those lines. The problem becomes before fuser unit.

    I've replaced:

    All drums
    ITB
    Fusing unit
    ITB motor
    Fusing motor
    All register tray with clutch
    Laser unit
    Transfer roller


    It happens at a3 format paper, a4 aint do this problem :/ no matter which tray


    Increasing fusing speed on techmode made IT better only for a few prints or it was just a luck:/

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  • piksel1983
    Technician
    • Oct 2018
    • 38

    #2
    Re: C454e print problem

    Edit


    The lines starts everytime exactly from the same point and is allways at the same width.



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    • Synthohol
      Certified Konica Expert

      Site Contributor
      5,000+ Posts
      • Mar 2016
      • 5740

      #3
      Re: C454e print problem

      have you replaced the developing unit? the gradient looks like crap nevermind the lines.
      We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
      The medication helps though...

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      • Hansoon
        Field Supervisor

        Site Contributor
        2,500+ Posts
        • Sep 2007
        • 3350

        #4
        Re: C454e print problem

        I don't know since you said you replaced practically everything, but first thing coming up in my mind seeing this: Crud under the transfer belt cleaning blade.....

        Hans
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        • piksel1983
          Technician
          • Oct 2018
          • 38

          #5
          Re: C454e print problem

          Originally posted by Synthohol
          have you replaced the developing unit? the gradient looks like crap nevermind the lines.
          DV's were swapped before print so they re crappy

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          • piksel1983
            Technician
            • Oct 2018
            • 38

            #6
            Re: C454e print problem

            Originally posted by Hansoon
            I don't know since you said you replaced practically everything, but first thing coming up in my mind seeing this: Crud under the transfer belt cleaning blade.....

            Hans
            ITB was changed and it didnt resolved the problem



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            • femaster
              Service Manager

              1,000+ Posts
              • May 2011
              • 1466

              #7
              Re: C454e print problem

              For the hell of it, remove the black plastic guide piece that is mounted to the top of the ITB. It really looks like the fins from that are scraping the paper before the toner gets fused. If that takes care of the marks, at least you have an idea of where you need to concentrate.
              Last edited by femaster; 04-13-2023, 09:01 PM.
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              • Ziggy
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                500+ Posts
                • Feb 2018
                • 684

                #8
                Re: C454e print problem

                Try running a solid black and open the side door before it goes all the way through the fuser . Then check paper to see if its happening before fuser , at this point after carefully pulling out jam you could pull the transfer belt and see if the lines are on the belt

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                • allan
                  RTFM!!

                  5,000+ Posts
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 5459

                  #9
                  Re: C454e print problem

                  Try the fuser speed adjustment. Wonder if it creates enough loop between the transfer and the fuser?
                  Whatever

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                  • Max
                    Senior Tech

                    500+ Posts
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 548

                    #10
                    Re: C454e print problem

                    It is a plastic guide that sits on the front of the transfer belt.

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                    • Mr Bo
                      Technician
                      • Mar 2023
                      • 28

                      #11
                      Re: C454e print problem

                      Originally posted by piksel1983
                      ITB was changed and it didnt resolved the problem



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                      Hi piksel1983
                      In SM there is a mention of high voltage unit, try replacing it

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                      • Max
                        Senior Tech

                        500+ Posts
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 548

                        #12
                        Re: C454e print problem

                        Was the belt replaced with a different plastic guide? Just remove it completely for testing purposes.

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                        • piksel1983
                          Technician
                          • Oct 2018
                          • 38

                          #13
                          Re: C454e print problem

                          Originally posted by femaster
                          For the hell of it, remove the black plastic guide piece that is mounted to the top of the ITB. It really looks like the fins from that are scraping the paper before the toner gets fused. If that takes care of the marks, at least you have an idea of where you need to concentrate.
                          ITB was swapped, the guides were removed:/ nothing changed:/

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                          • piksel1983
                            Technician
                            • Oct 2018
                            • 38

                            #14
                            Re: C454e print problem

                            Originally posted by Markks
                            Try running a solid black and open the side door before it goes all the way through the fuser . Then check paper to see if its happening before fuser , at this point after carefully pulling out jam you could pull the transfer belt and see if the lines are on the belt
                            That was the first thing i have done. Jammed a3 paper between fuser and register roller. The scratch is before entering the fuser. The print can be removed by finger.

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                            • piksel1983
                              Technician
                              • Oct 2018
                              • 38

                              #15
                              Re: C454e print problem

                              Originally posted by allan
                              Try the fuser speed adjustment. Wonder if it creates enough loop between the transfer and the fuser?
                              Tkanks for reply and idea. Increased speed and set it at20 -max for thin paper. Printed well a few a3 papers and started scrating again:/

                              There's a loop in paper while entering fuser and exiting register roller.

                              This sh$+#t happens only at a3 paper, a4 is allways ok.

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