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  • captainrva
    Trusted Tech

    100+ Posts
    • Oct 2014
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    #1

    Bizhub C284 Login Error when authentication and account track are turned OFF

    I have a peculiar problem that I have never run across. A customer has 20 computers and they are all the exact same. Only 1 of those computers is now having an issue printing. The jobs are deleted due to error, and the error is a login error. I checked and both Authentication and Account track are turned off so this shouldn't be happening. I have reinstalled the driver and restarted both the computer and the copier to no avail. Any help is much appreciated.
  • copier tech
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    • Jan 2014
    • 8106

    #2
    Re: Bizhub C284 Login Error when authentication and account track are turned OFF

    If the issue is only happening on 1 pc out of 20 it clearly is an issue with that one PC. Most likely a currupt driver even tho you reinstalled it the pc could still be using the currupt one. It could simply be the driver setting have authentication etc enabled. Also try a different version ie PCL5/5. Also run windows update on that one PC.
    I'd also update the copier firmware.
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    • blackcat4866
      Master Of The Obvious

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      • Jul 2007
      • 22948

      #3
      Re: Bizhub C284 Login Error when authentication and account track are turned OFF

      It's also possible that there is a connection issue with the specific PC. Go to that PC and start a continuous ping to the server. You might notice very long ping times, or completely dropping out periodically. =^..^=
      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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      • Synthohol
        Certified Konica Expert

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        • Mar 2016
        • 5741

        #4
        Re: Bizhub C284 Login Error when authentication and account track are turned OFF

        wait... please explain what a log-in error has to do with printing.
        log-in is for PSWC not printing. al logon error is for scanning AFAIK.
        can you be more elabritive?
        We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
        The medication helps though...

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        • allan
          RTFM!!

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          • Apr 2010
          • 5459

          #5
          Re: Bizhub C284 Login Error when authentication and account track are turned OFF

          When he checks the print history on the machine it states print job "deleted due to error" detail "login error".
          As if print user authentication is failing.
          Got no clue as to why that will happen.

          I would check things like the driver printer configuration to see if authentication or account track is manually switched on. Still makes no sense.
          Or under admin i would look to see if "Print without authentication" option is available.

          Had corrupt drivers do weird stuff before.
          The suggestion to use a generic PCL driver is good but you loose functionality.

          Would ip filtering show as an error in the printer log??
          Whatever

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          • Synthohol
            Certified Konica Expert

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            • Mar 2016
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            #6
            Re: Bizhub C284 Login Error when authentication and account track are turned OFF

            ok, thanks for the clarification.
            yeah i'd delete the drivers and start over on that PC.
            not just the queue, the drivers too in>>>
            deldrv.jpg
            We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
            The medication helps though...

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            • Mr Spock
              Vulcan Inventor of Death

              1,000+ Posts
              • Aug 2006
              • 2064

              #7
              Re: Bizhub C284 Login Error when authentication and account track are turned OFF

              I had a wonderful IT staff that turned on the account track to monitor the print usage. Hard coded the driver so the end user would not see the popup. After some fall out with management they went back and turned account track off. They could not understand why no one could print.... The local print drivers (where they hard coded the code) was still trying to pass login info to the machine and machine was showing login error. They had to enable account track on the local pc then remove the account info then turn it off to get everyone printing again.
              And Star Trek was just a tv show...yeah right!

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              • captainrva
                Trusted Tech

                100+ Posts
                • Oct 2014
                • 100

                #8
                Re: Bizhub C284 Login Error when authentication and account track are turned OFF

                I got it sorted today. I turned authentication on and print without authentication at the panel, sent a print and it came through so I then turned off the authentication and now it prints normally. I appreciate all the help!

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                • KM7155
                  Trusted Tech
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 145

                  #9
                  Re: Bizhub C284 Login Error when authentication and account track are turned OFF

                  Guys, i have a c364e, it cant print when the account track is enable, it showed Login Error at the details of the deleted job.
                  without the account track, no issue with the printing.
                  i did the verify password, it succeeded.
                  the firmware is A5C10Y0-F000-G20-M1(00).
                  thanks.

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                  • KM7155
                    Trusted Tech
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 145

                    #10
                    Re: Bizhub C284 Login Error when authentication and account track are turned OFF

                    Originally posted by KM7155
                    Guys, i have a c364e, it cant print when the account track is enable, it showed Login Error at the details of the deleted job.
                    without the account track, no issue with the printing.
                    i did the verify password, it succeeded.
                    the firmware is A5C10Y0-F000-G20-M1(00).
                    thanks.
                    what i have done,
                    reformat the hard disk
                    clear the account track entries
                    reload the printer driver
                    try new and old version driver
                    try different PC to print.

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                    • pappyvonsillypants
                      Technician
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 30

                      #11
                      Re: Bizhub C284 Login Error when authentication and account track are turned OFF

                      Re: Bizhub C284 Login Error when authentication and account track are turned OFF


                      Originally Posted by KM7155
                      Guys, i have a c364e, it cant print when the account track is enable, it showed Login Error at the details of the deleted job.
                      without the account track, no issue with the printing.
                      i did the verify password, it succeeded.
                      the firmware is A5C10Y0-F000-G20-M1(00).
                      thanks.



                      what i have done,
                      reformat the hard disk
                      clear the account track entries
                      reload the printer driver
                      try new and old version driver
                      try different PC to print.

                      I am having the same issue my self. they had a c360 w account track and had no problems. we upgraded them to a c454e and with out account track it works.... with it it gives me a log in error... any resolution to this??

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                      • bsm2
                        IT Manager

                        25,000+ Posts
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 29474

                        #12
                        Re: Bizhub C284 Login Error when authentication and account track are turned OFF

                        Originally posted by pappyvonsillypants
                        Re: Bizhub C284 Login Error when authentication and account track are turned OFF


                        Originally Posted by KM7155
                        Guys, i have a c364e, it cant print when the account track is enable, it showed Login Error at the details of the deleted job.
                        without the account track, no issue with the printing.
                        i did the verify password, it succeeded.
                        the firmware is A5C10Y0-F000-G20-M1(00).
                        thanks.



                        what i have done,
                        reformat the hard disk
                        clear the account track entries
                        reload the printer driver
                        try new and old version driver
                        try different PC to print.

                        I am having the same issue my self. they had a c360 w account track and had no problems. we upgraded them to a c454e and with out account track it works.... with it it gives me a log in error... any resolution to this??

                        Are you printing to the Fiery or the C284?

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                        • paulrid
                          Trusted Tech

                          100+ Posts
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 206

                          #13
                          Re: Bizhub C284 Login Error when authentication and account track are turned OFF

                          Originally posted by pappyvonsillypants
                          Re: Bizhub C284 Login Error when authentication and account track are turned OFF


                          Originally Posted by KM7155
                          Guys, i have a c364e, it cant print when the account track is enable, it showed Login Error at the details of the deleted job.
                          without the account track, no issue with the printing.
                          i did the verify password, it succeeded.
                          the firmware is A5C10Y0-F000-G20-M1(00).
                          thanks.



                          what i have done,
                          reformat the hard disk
                          clear the account track entries
                          reload the printer driver
                          try new and old version driver
                          try different PC to print.

                          I am having the same issue my self. they had a c360 w account track and had no problems. we upgraded them to a c454e and with out account track it works.... with it it gives me a log in error... any resolution to this??
                          did you update the driver? Old one will do basic printing but won't work with account track due to different signing?

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                          • pappyvonsillypants
                            Technician
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 30

                            #14
                            Re: Bizhub C284 Login Error when authentication and account track are turned OFF

                            yes i had updated the driver to the new one. firmware is up to date as well... i m having their i.t. delete everything from server and pcs to start fresh in 10 minuetes i will update with any info. no fiery using empron controller.

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                            • B0265
                              Senior Tech

                              500+ Posts
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 718

                              #15
                              Re: Bizhub C284 Login Error when authentication and account track are turned OFF

                              Make sure the correct model is selected in the configure tab of the driver.

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