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  • FrohnB
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    #436
    Re: Let the truth be known

    Originally posted by Hansen88
    So if joe biden was not running for president what trump did trying to uncover corruption would have been fine?
    EXACTLTY!!!! Applause goes to you Good Sir!
    Omertà

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    • Copier Addict
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      #437
      Re: Let the truth be known

      Originally posted by FrohnB
      By that logic it would mean they are looking for something ordinary not something "out of the ordinary". Which is again, right up their alley! Let's look at all of the Normal/Ordinary things the President has done or is doing (that past presidents have also done), and make something out of nothing with it!
      Ummm, no. It means they are looking for something that is quite easy to find. Something out of something.

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      • bsm2
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        #438
        Re: Let the truth be known

        Originally posted by FrohnB
        EXACTLTY!!!! Applause goes to you Good Sir!

        That's Exactly what he got impeached in the House for! Applause goes to you Good Sir!

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        • Copier Addict
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          #439
          Re: Let the truth be known

          Originally posted by Hansen88
          So if joe biden was not running for president what trump did trying to uncover corruption would have been fine?
          You have it all wrong! Whether Biden did anything wrong or not is moot. It is the fact that donny tried to extort a personal favour from a foreign government by withholding military and financial aid.
          Biden's wrongdoing, if any, should be investigated by a US service, not the leader of another country.

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          • FrohnB
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            #440
            Re: Let the truth be known

            Originally posted by copier addict
            You have it all wrong! Whether Biden did anything wrong or not is moot. It is the fact that donny tried to extort a personal favour from a foreign government by withholding military and financial aid.
            Biden's wrongdoing, if any, should be investigated by a US service, not the leader of another country.
            Should be investigated by a "US service" not the leader of another country?? When the crimes and corruption ORIGINATED in said "other country"?? "Another Country" has found evidence of crimes and corruption by doing it's own internal investigations, and then relays that to a "US service" (which is happening now), and that "US service" then begins it's own investigation. Charges could be received by BOTH countries! Very dumb to say that another country shouldn't investigate someone that has committed a crime on their soil just because they don't come from that country.
            Omertà

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            • Copier Addict
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              #441
              Re: Let the truth be known

              Originally posted by FrohnB
              Should be investigated by a "US service" not the leader of another country?? When the crimes and corruption ORIGINATED in said "other country"?? "Another Country" has found evidence of crimes and corruption by doing it's own internal investigations, and then relays that to a "US service" (which is happening now), and that "US service" then begins it's own investigation. Charges could be received by BOTH countries! Very dumb to say that another country shouldn't investigate someone that has committed a crime on their soil just because they don't come from that country.
              You completely skipped over the fact that donny tried to extort a personal favour from a foreign leader. That is one of the impeachable offences.
              If Biden did something wrong, then have an investigation. I'm sure he is guilty of something somewhere. Most politicians are, even donny.

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              • FrohnB
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                #442
                Re: Let the truth be known

                Originally posted by copier addict
                You completely skipped over the fact that donny tried to extort a personal favour from a foreign leader. That is one of the impeachable offences.
                If Biden did something wrong, then have an investigation. I'm sure he is guilty of something somewhere. Most politicians are, even donny.
                You conveniently leave out the fact that nearly EVERY President/ King/ Prime minister/ etc. engages in this act!

                Obama offered admin positions to dozens of people, but in return they would have to do him the favor of donating at least $50,000 to his re-election campaign.

                Also that time Obama paid Ransom to Terrorists!! We will give you this $400 million, but in return
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                • Copier Addict
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                  #443
                  Re: Let the truth be known

                  Originally posted by FrohnB
                  You conveniently leave out the fact that nearly EVERY President/ King/ Prime minister/ etc. engages in this act!

                  Obama offered admin positions to dozens of people, but in return they would have to do him the favor of donating at least $50,000 to his re-election campaign.

                  Also that time Obama paid Ransom to Terrorists!! We will give you this $400 million, but in return
                  If the first example happened then it is wrong (personal favour for something in return)
                  The second example is not what we are talking about at all. Big difference between asking for a personal favour in return for something else of value and trying to get prisoners released.

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                  • bsm2
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                    #444
                    Re: Let the truth be known

                    Originally posted by FrohnB
                    You conveniently leave out the fact that nearly EVERY President/ King/ Prime minister/ etc. engages in this act!

                    Obama offered admin positions to dozens of people, but in return they would have to do him the favor of donating at least $50,000 to his re-election campaign.

                    Also that time Obama paid Ransom to Terrorists!! We will give you this $400 million, but in return we want our prisoners.

                    Those are are just a couple of examples from Just the previous administration. If it’s such a fucking crime, let’s take a look at Every past president and administration and file charges accordingly.
                    Delusions as the Meltdown Continues. It not me it's him defence Failed again.
                    So your theory is Trump's a Crook also Hahhhahahaha

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                    • Phil B.
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                      Re: Let the truth be known

                      Gary Peters illicitly coordinating with another dark money group, watchdog claims - Washington Times

                      December 23, 2019


                      Sen. Gary Peters (D-MI) is locked in a tough battle for re-election in 2020, and his bid to retain his seat may have just grown more difficult: the Democrat was hit by a complaint filed against him with the Federal Elections Commission (FEC) accusing him of illicit campaign activities, The Washington Times reported. FEC complaint filed

                      The FEC complaint was filed by a right-leaning watchdog group known as the Foundation for Accountability and Civic Trust (FACT), which alleged that Peters was secretly coordinating his re-election efforts with a progressive left advocacy group known as Majority Forward.

                      Democrat Sen. Gary Peters accused of illegal coordination with leftist 'dark money' group


                      Previously, FACT had filed an FEC complaint which asserted that Peters was similarly coordinating in illicit fashion with a left-leaning veterans group known as VoteVets.

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                      • slimslob
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                        #446
                        Re: Let the truth be known

                        Originally posted by bsm2
                        Yes LARGE FONT only scares the weak.
                        No, large fonts and colored text are used by small minds trying to make themselves look important.
                        Last edited by slimslob; 12-25-2019, 01:38 AM.

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                        • slimslob
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                          #447
                          Re: Let the truth be known

                          Originally posted by FrohnB
                          Should be investigated by a "US service" not the leader of another country?? When the crimes and corruption ORIGINATED in said "other country"?? "Another Country" has found evidence of crimes and corruption by doing it's own internal investigations, and then relays that to a "US service" (which is happening now), and that "US service" then begins it's own investigation. Charges could be received by BOTH countries! Very dumb to say that another country shouldn't investigate someone that has committed a crime on their soil just because they don't come from that country.
                          Considering the facts that Biden did not announce his decision to run until after the Ukrainian elections and that Hunter Biden resigned his position with the Ukrainian company the next day, it would be impossible for the new Ukrainian president to investigate Biden. What Trump was encouraging him to do was investigating the former Ukrainian president, something the new Ukrainian president had already put in motion.

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                          • bsm2
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                            #448
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                            It's been anything but a do Nothing Congress



                            U.S. Rep. Charlie Crist

                            By Charlie Crist
                            Published Yesterday

                            While the news has been consumed with impeachment proceedings, it’s understandable many Americans believe Congress hit pause on its legislative work on behalf of the people this year. Fortunately, nothing could be further from the truth.
                            In the House of Representatives, we’ve passed 275 bipartisan bills that sit waiting for action in the Senate. One of our first acts in 2019 was legislation strengthening gun background checks to help keep guns out of the hands of people who by law shouldn’t have them. We raised the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour, giving 33 million Americans a raise. We passed legislation to protect Dreamers, young people brought to the U.S. by their parents as kids, who only know America as home. We expanded benefits for Blue Water Navy Vietnam veterans exposed to Agent Orange. We protected the LGBTQ community from discrimination. We restored the Voting Rights Act to protect people’s right to the ballot box. On the international front, we recognized the Armenian genocide for what it was. We strengthened Russian sanctions and called China out for its crushing crackdown on pro-democracy protesters in Hong Kong and the imprisonment of over one million Chinese ethnic Uighurs.






                            It’s been anything but a do-nothing Congress | Column

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                            • Tricky
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                              #449
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                              • bsm2
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                                #450
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                                Trump University and the Trump Foundation

                                What a Role Model Trump and his foundation were just forced to admit their fraud.




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