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  • SalesServiceGuy
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    #1051
    Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

    Originally posted by n25an
    chris cuomo fake quarantine...
    Chris Cuomo has done fantastic work broadcasting through his Covid-19 infection. No other major media personality has done that ... period.

    Dr Sanjay Gupta who was on the air monitoring Chris's health every night has done fantastic work.

    It is well documented that while afflicted, COVID-19 effects your better judgement. Perhaps, Chris Cuomo did not make the best call in every case.

    We know the right leaning media who wants to make him look bad will pounce at every opportunity to help fill up their air time.

    Just like the Pelosi ice cream/ freezer flap. A nothing burger wildly exaggerated by right leaning media sources attempting for purely political reasons to discredit her reputation.

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    • SalesServiceGuy
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      #1052
      Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

      Would you kill one healthy person to save the lives of five others who desperately need organ transplants?

      A healthcare worker in green scrubs stands in the middle of an intersection, staring down a traffic jam of screaming protesters demanding a return to their livelihoods and liberties.

      The photograph, taken Sunday at an "Operation Gridlock" protest in Denver, so clearly captures the tensions of this American moment that it could be ripped from Norman Rockwell's collection. Like the protesters and the healthcare worker, our country is poised, tensely, at a moral crossroads.

      A quandary now confronts policymakers across the country: Should we reopen the economy to help the majority or protect the lives of the vulnerable by remaining in lockdown?

      One answer to that question -- letting a minority suffer so that the majority may benefit -- is known as utilitarianism. And it's one of the most common, and controversial, ways of making moral choices.

      In matters of life and death, like we're in now, strict utilitarianism can be downright dangerous.

      "This is a moment when every country in the world is facing the same set of ethical questions and dilemmas,"

      "How we answer will be a real test of our humanity and sense of justice."


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      • Phil B.
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        #1053
        Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

        Report: Obama Admin Funded China's Coronavirus Research, Gave Millions in Taxpayer Money to Wuhan Lab

        The PostWashington Post editorial, again from last weekU.K. Daily MailtitledFox NewsChinese assistance.
        But then, why should we be surprised that this is how China operates? This is always how China operates. Do as they tell you or else.
        So then why, pray tell, did the Obama administration reportedly give the Wuhan Institute of Virology $3.7 million to conduct research into novel coronaviruses? No matter where COVID-19 came from, he owes the American people an explanation.

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        • srvctec
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          #1054
          Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

          Originally posted by n25an
          social distancing myanmar style
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          Well, except for these people!
          Started in the copier service business in the fall of 1988 and worked at the same company for 33.5 years, becoming the senior tech in 2004 but left to pursue another career on 4/29/22.

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          • Copier Addict
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            #1055
            Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

            No evidence SARS CoV2 was created in a lab.

            COVID-19 coronavirus epidemic has a natural origin -- ScienceDaily

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            • slimslob
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              #1056
              Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

              Originally posted by copiertec
              I have yet to see a concrete and girder building implode upon it self, nice and neatly like this one did. Remind you of anything else?
              I guess n25an is also a 9-11 conspiracy theorist as well. I watched those buildings collapse. Demoed buildings collapse from the bottom up, not the top down. Aviation fuel burn at a temperature well above that required to weaken structural steel. The second building hit came down first because it ws hit at a lower level and therefore had considerably more weight above the weakened floors.

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              • bsm2
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                #1057
                Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                Originally posted by Phil B.
                Report: Obama Admin Funded China's Coronavirus Research, Gave Millions in Taxpayer Money to Wuhan Lab

                The PostWashington Post editorial, again from last weekU.K. Daily MailtitledFox NewsChinese assistance.
                But then, why should we be surprised that this is how China operates? This is always how China operates. Do as they tell you or else.
                So then why, pray tell, did the Obama administration reportedly give the Wuhan Institute of Virology $3.7 million to conduct research into novel coronaviruses? No matter where COVID-19 came from, he owes the American people an explanation.
                Hilarious Obama's Fault.
                Wait wait it was Hillary's Fault.

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                • n25an
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                  #1058
                  Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                  This article is the definition of clickbait... it starts of making you think its going to tackle a taboo topic and then completely avoids the title...

                  Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                  Would you kill one healthy person to save the lives of five others who desperately need organ transplants?

                  A healthcare worker in green scrubs stands in the middle of an intersection, staring down a traffic jam of screaming protesters demanding a return to their livelihoods and liberties.

                  The photograph, taken Sunday at an "Operation Gridlock" protest in Denver, so clearly captures the tensions of this American moment that it could be ripped from Norman Rockwell's collection. Like the protesters and the healthcare worker, our country is poised, tensely, at a moral crossroads.

                  A quandary now confronts policymakers across the country: Should we reopen the economy to help the majority or protect the lives of the vulnerable by remaining in lockdown?

                  One answer to that question -- letting a minority suffer so that the majority may benefit -- is known as utilitarianism. And it's one of the most common, and controversial, ways of making moral choices.

                  In matters of life and death, like we're in now, strict utilitarianism can be downright dangerous.

                  "This is a moment when every country in the world is facing the same set of ethical questions and dilemmas,"

                  "How we answer will be a real test of our humanity and sense of justice."


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                  • n25an
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                    #1059
                    Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                    add covid 19 conspiracy theorist to that list...

                    Originally posted by slimslob
                    I guess n25an is also a 9-11 conspiracy theorist as well. I watched those buildings collapse. Demoed buildings collapse from the bottom up, not the top down. Aviation fuel burn at a temperature well above that required to weaken structural steel. The second building hit came down first because it ws hit at a lower level and therefore had considerably more weight above the weakened floors.
                    Sad To Say I Don't Have a Life
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                    • SalesServiceGuy
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                      #1060
                      Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                      Originally posted by n25an
                      This article is the definition of clickbait... it starts of making you think its going to tackle a taboo topic and then completely avoids the title...
                      The question is from a famous social experiment.

                      Doctors right now across America are making similar life and death decisions based upon what limited medical resources they have to allocate across multiple patients.

                      Some states and municipalities are trying to decide if it is safe to reopen their economies while at the same time deeming a certain number of deaths because of that decision is acceptable.

                      You can read the full lengthy article here describing utilitarianism.

                      Reopening the country: The dangerous moral arguments behind this movement - CNN

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                      • copiertec
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                        #1061
                        Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                        Originally posted by slimslob
                        I guess n25an is also a 9-11 conspiracy theorist as well. I watched those buildings collapse. Demoed buildings collapse from the bottom up, not the top down. Aviation fuel burn at a temperature well above that required to weaken structural steel. The second building hit came down first because it ws hit at a lower level and therefore had considerably more weight above the weakened floors.
                        There was barely a fire in building 7, yet it completely melted all the steel and turned concrete to dust...okay, I'm sure you have a great piece of land in the Everglades you want to sell me to.

                        Fire did not cause World Trade Center Building 7 collapse, UAF study suggests - KTVA 11 - The Voice of Alaska


                        Last edited by copiertec; 04-23-2020, 10:44 PM.

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                        • n25an
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                          #1062
                          Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                          Originally posted by bsm2
                          Hilarious Obama's Fault.
                          Wait wait it was Hillary's Fault.
                          hold on... keep in mind the creation of black sites
                          Black site - Wikipedia

                          sites setup by the us govt where they can hold enemy combatants on soil that is not technically usa and basically do to them whatever they want... within the law and outside the law... its a place for extraction of information not obeying the law...

                          so it would not be a stretch for a black site to do other things... such as illegal viral research... it would not be a stretch for wuhan lab to be such a site...

                          and why would this be done... because the benefits would outweigh the risks and both govts felt that it was a risk they could live with and it could not be done on usa shores due to legal restrictions...



                          also keep in mind black projects
                          Black project - Wikipedia
                          now in the explanation above use the words black project instead of black site...
                          black project could have multiple black sites....
                          or none at all


                          then there is the doctrine of plausible deniability...
                          Plausible deniability - Wikipedia

                          a senior official in the us govt authorizes project, another would fund it, another would act as a cutout, or there would be measures in place to fold the project or site into another program...

                          which flows neatly into the concept of black budget
                          Black budget - Wikipedia

                          and then there is off the books money
                          Allegations of CIA drug trafficking - Wikipedia
                          If you want to know how to run a slush fund, look no further than the CIA. Author Peter Dale Scott unearths the ways the agency has always been able to spend past its means.


                          Now you could say... its more of my conspiracy theory crap...

                          then consider operation gladio

                          the very definition of a black project
                          and that was in the early days of the cia...
                          and many other us intelligence services have come into existence since then
                          The U.S. intelligence community recently reaffirmed its conclusion that senior officials in Russia were behind hacks during the 2016 presidential campaign into the Democratic National Committee and emails belonging to associates of Hillary Clinton.

                          and just about everyone has had some kind of scandal if not outright overreach
                          Last edited by n25an; 04-23-2020, 11:50 PM.
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                          • n25an
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                            #1063
                            Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                            I stand corrected... the title you used was clickbaity... and concerning the question of to open or not to open... open... no question... people will die... deal with it... but if the economy stops... we will all wish we were dead... most people don't realize we are just one step removed from the jungle... civility is not normal for the majority of humans... its only normal if people can get what they want...

                            and we don't have a limitless supply of cash... socialism is fun to try but not to live...

                            look its like Margaret Thatcher once said that "The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."
                            Did Margaret Thatcher once say that 'The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money'?


                            Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                            The question is from a famous social experiment.

                            Doctors right now across America are making similar life and death decisions based upon what limited medical resources they have to allocate across multiple patients.

                            Some states and municipalities are trying to decide if it is safe to reopen their economies while at the same time deeming a certain number of deaths because of that decision is acceptable.

                            You can read the full lengthy article here describing utilitarianism.

                            Reopening the country: The dangerous moral arguments behind this movement - CNN
                            Sad To Say I Don't Have a Life
                            I do this stuff on the weekends too

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                            • n25an
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                              #1064
                              Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                              covid 19 vaccine trials start in uk
                              Coronavirus: First patients injected in UK vaccine trial - BBC News
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                              • n25an
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                                #1065
                                Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                                covid 19 protection
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