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  • BillyCarpenter
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    This article sheds light on why Canada can't produce their own covid vaccine. Canada lacks the technology and infrastructure to make the highly complex covid vaccine. Instead, Canada can only produce the old school protein vaccines. To use an analogy: Canada is trying to fight a war with Russia using prop airplanes while Russia is using stealth bombers.

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    Canada can make vaccines, just not the ones leading the COVID-19 race


    Prime Minister Justin Trudeau created a firestorm Tuesday when he said Canadians will have to wait a bit to get vaccinated for COVID-19 because the first doses off the production lines will be used in the countries where they are made.
    So while vaccinations might start next month in the United States, the United Kingdom and Germany, it will be January at the earliest before any doses are injected in this country.


    Andrew Casey, the CEO of BioteCanada, told The Canadian Press Wednesday that Canada does produce vaccines but the technology for the leading COVID-19 vaccine candidates is so new, the manufacturing capacity is being built alongside the vaccines themselves.


    While pharmaceutical company Sanofi has a vaccine plant in Toronto and GlaxoSmithKline has one in Quebec, both make protein-based vaccines, such as the more familiar ones Canadians get every year for the flu.

    Canada has spent more than $1 billion to pre-order seven different developing COVID-19 vaccines, and only one being developed jointly by Sanofi and GlaxoSmithKline uses the protein technology.


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    • Copier Addict
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      #4367
      Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

      Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
      This article sheds light on why Canada can't produce their own covid vaccine. Canada lacks the technology and infrastructure to make the highly complex covid vaccine. Instead, Canada can only produce the old school protein vaccines. To use an analogy: Canada is trying to fight a war with Russia using prop airplanes while Russia is using stealth bombers.

      Read more....


      Canada can make vaccines, just not the ones leading the COVID-19 race


      Prime Minister Justin Trudeau created a firestorm Tuesday when he said Canadians will have to wait a bit to get vaccinated for COVID-19 because the first doses off the production lines will be used in the countries where they are made.
      So while vaccinations might start next month in the United States, the United Kingdom and Germany, it will be January at the earliest before any doses are injected in this country.


      Andrew Casey, the CEO of BioteCanada, told The Canadian Press Wednesday that Canada does produce vaccines but the technology for the leading COVID-19 vaccine candidates is so new, the manufacturing capacity is being built alongside the vaccines themselves.


      While pharmaceutical company Sanofi has a vaccine plant in Toronto and GlaxoSmithKline has one in Quebec, both make protein-based vaccines, such as the more familiar ones Canadians get every year for the flu.

      Canada has spent more than $1 billion to pre-order seven different developing COVID-19 vaccines, and only one being developed jointly by Sanofi and GlaxoSmithKline uses the protein technology.


      Oh, and here's another. It's always good to provide people with as much information as possible, not just the information that pushes ones own agenda.

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      • BillyCarpenter
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        Originally posted by copier addict
        Oh, and here's another. It's always good to provide people with as much information as possible, not just the information that pushes ones own agenda.

        https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&sourc...SgkiZT&ampcf=1

        Thanks for the information. It's good that Canada is trying to catch up to the more advanced countries like the USA and Germany. Unfortunately, because there was no planning for a pandemic by Canada, it's gonna be late 2021 before you MAY get a vaccine that was developed by your country. And who knows if the vaccine will pass in clinical trials. Poor planning by Trudeau.

        From the link you posted:

        Lewis said that if one of his team’s DNA vaccines is approved, a million doses could be made daily in Edmonton. If approved, the vaccine could be ready for distribution in the second half of 2021.
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        • Copier Addict
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          Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
          Thanks for the information. It's good that Canada is trying to catch up to the more advanced countries like the USA and Germany. Unfortunately, because there was no planning for a pandemic by Canada, it's gonna be late 2021 before you MAY get a vaccine that was developed by your country. And who knows if the vaccine will pass in clinical trials. Poor planning by Trudeau.

          From the link you posted:

          in the second half of 2021.
          Thank you so much for your obvious distress over my country's vaccine condition. But please, take my word for it, things will work out okay.

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          • BillyCarpenter
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            Originally posted by copier addict
            Thank you so much for your obvious distress over my country's vaccine condition. But please, take my word for it, things will work out okay.
            Well, considering all the love and concern that you've shown to my country, it's the least I could do.
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            • Copier Addict
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              Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
              Well, considering all the love and concern that you've shown to my country, it's the least I could do.

              Just to make this clear one more time. I haven't insulted your country, as you have mine, I have simply insulted and disparaged certain people within your country.

              And now back to posts on covid.

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              • BillyCarpenter
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                Originally posted by copier addict
                Just to make this clear one more time. I haven't insulted your country, as you have mine, I have simply insulted and disparaged certain people within your country.

                And now back to posts on covid.
                Sure, you haven't insulted the USA. You only bring up every shortcoming that you can google. Learn to deal with a little criticism, buddy. Nothing I said is untrue.

                PS - Can you point me to all the positive posts that you've made about the USA. I'm sure there must be many. I'll wait?
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                • Copier Addict
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                  Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                  Sure, you haven't insulted the USA. You only bring up every shortcoming that you can google. Learn to deal with a little criticism, buddy. Nothing I said is untrue.

                  PS - Can you point me to all the positive posts that you've made about the USA. I'm sure there must be many. I'll wait?

                  Is you point that since I haven't spoken positively about your country then I must have spoken negatively about your country? That's pretty thin, dude.

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                  • BillyCarpenter
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                    Originally posted by copier addict
                    Is you point that since I haven't spoken positively about your country then I must have spoken negatively about your country? That's pretty thin, dude.
                    Do you have a wife or girlfriend? Try this out and let me know how it works out for you: Every time you speak to your wife, point out all her flaws and never say anything positive.
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                      • BillyCarpenter
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                        While Canada will ramp up their vaccine rollout in the 2nd half of 2020, Fauci said USA will be back to normal at that time. We may have to ban travel from Canada temporarily until they get up to speed.








                        When asked


                        TheNational Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease director added



                        Earlier this month, Fauci, who has encouraged Americans not to gather with their families for the holidays, warned



                        Fauci, who turns 80 on Christmas Eve, received the first dose of



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                        • bsm2
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                          Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                          While Canada will ramp up their vaccine rollout in the 2nd half of 2020, Fauci said USA will be back to normal at that time. We may have to ban travel from Canada temporarily until they get up to speed.








                          When asked


                          TheNational Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease director added



                          Earlier this month, Fauci, who has encouraged Americans not to gather with their families for the holidays, warned



                          Fauci, who turns 80 on Christmas Eve, received the first dose of



                          Another Christmas Miracle Now YOU beleive Dr. Fauci

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                            Locked-down California runs out of reasons for surprising surge



                            America's most populous state has become one of the nation's worst epicenters for the coronavirus.


                            OAKLAND, Calif. — California has had some of the toughest restrictions in the country to combat the coronavirus, from a complete ban on restaurant dining to travel quarantines and indoor gym closures.

                            It hasn't been enough.


                            America's most populous state has become one of the nation's worst epicenters for the disease, setting new records for cases, hospitalizations and deaths almost every day. Things are so bad in Southern California that some patients are being treated in hospital tents, while doctors have begun discussing whether they need to ration care.









                            The turnabout has confounded leaders and health experts. They can point to any number of reasons that contributed to California's surge over the past several weeks. But it is hard to pinpoint one single factor — and equally hard to find a silver bullet.

                            It couldn't come at a worse time, given that the Christmas and New Year's holidays have arrived, and officials fear that residents are even more likely to travel and congregate than during the Thanksgiving period that propelled the current trends.

                            “We are facing a very, very difficult and very dangerous time in our county, in our region and in our state. All of our numbers are going in the wrong direction, and our reality is rather grim at the moment,” Santa Clara County public health officer Sara Cody said Wednesday.

                            “If we have a surge on top of a surge," she added, "we will definitely break."

                            At more than 100 new daily cases per 100,000 residents, California’s case rate is second only to that in Tennessee, according to the nonprofit tracking site Covid Act Now — though it's a state that does not mandate mask wearing and allows indoor gatherings of up to 10 people. The website Covid Exit Strategy shows a 97 percent rise in Covid throughout California, which has gone in the opposite direction from its West Coast counterparts, Oregon and Washington.


                            In Los Angeles, officials have said all along that people were gathering too often. They blamed celebrations and postseason viewing parties when the Dodgers and Lakers won championships this fall.

                            Some have blamed the strict rules themselves, saying that cooped-up Californians couldn't take it any longer and decided they need to live their lives. Others have said congregant settings remain a severe concern in a housing-constrained state, especially in low-income communities where residents live in tight quarters and must continue to work in-person to survive.

                            The state hasn't employed strict enforcement and has relied on its regulatory agencies to cite the worst-offending establishments in spot cases. But it has no real hammer against people gathering or engaging in everyday social activities, and many local law enforcement agencies have made a point of declaring they will not become the stay-at-home police.


                            California has begun providing its initial vaccine allotments to health care workers, but immunizations are not expected to have a dramatic impact on infection spread for months, until broader distribution takes place.

                            In the meantime, the state is running out of levers to control the spread, leaving public health officers little choice but to implore residents to adhere to the rules.
                            Gov. Gavin Newsom has said all along that the state has to rely on social pressure to keep people apart. The state, with help from private donors, has spent tens of millions of dollars on billboards and advertisements urging responsible behavior. But Newsom himself erred in November when he attended a lavish dinner party with lobbyists — a faux pas that fueled resentment and resistance from residents already beleaguered by months of prohibitions.

                            California, with nearly 40 million residents, is nearing 2 million cases and more than 22,000 deaths. By any calculation, California’s outbreak numbers are stunning. With rapid, logarithmic growth, the virus has become so prevalent it’s simply become easier to spread.

                            In the biggest shopping month of the year, parking lots at malls and retail centers are packed. Such stores are among the few indoor operations allowed to stay open with stated capacity limits. Mobility data from Google suggests that Newsom's December stay-home orders have barely made a dent in keeping people home compared to previous months, though the baseline doesn't say whether it may have tamped down traffic compared to last December.

                            Rutherford doesn’t think the general population fully grasps the seriousness of the current surge. “People think they can negotiate with the virus,” he said. “Here's a hint: They can’t.”


                            Critics have questioned the science behind the regional lockdown orders. Public and industry pressure has already convinced state health officials to reopen playgrounds and relax limits on grocery store capacity. A Los Angeles trial court judge also said the county's prohibition on outdoor dining was "arbitrary" and that there was insufficient evidence showing it was a source of virus spread.

                            “Nationally, there has been a kaleidoscopic application of every imaginable type of lockdown order with California being the most restrictive and inflicting the most devastation on small businesses and the most economically vulnerable service workers. And still, we are none the better as far as COVID is concerned,” California Restaurant Association President and CEO Jot Condie said in a statement. “In fact in L.A. where indoor and outdoor dining are completely shut down, with indoor dining [closed] since July, the virus rages on.”

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                            • Phil B.
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                              Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                              Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                              While Canada will ramp up their vaccine rollout in the 2nd half of 2020, Fauci said USA will be back to normal at that time. We may have to ban travel from Canada temporarily until they get up to speed.








                              When asked


                              TheNational Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease director added



                              Earlier this month, Fauci, who has encouraged Americans not to gather with their families for the holidays, warned



                              Fauci, who turns 80 on Christmas Eve, received the first dose of



                              Oh yeah, elites cutting in line to take the vax. Why does some younger congressional member get the vax before older citizens? Just because she's a member of congress?
                              Entiled fucks, I will not take the shot, not now, not ever.
                              Haven't had the flu nor the vaccine in over 22years now, no need to start now.


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                              • BillyCarpenter
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                                I read an article the other day that spoke about rich countries buying up all the vaccine and leaving poor countries to suffer. I'm curious, is Canada willing to send 50% of their first order to poorer countries?
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