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  • BillyCarpenter
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    Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

    Originally posted by copier addict
    You seem to have memory issues. Okay, last time! I have already stated several times that I believe the taliban should have been hunted and put down. So, do I think the coalition should have stayed? YES. The problem is, their mandate wasn't for getting rid of the taliban, it was to train the Afghan army to deal with the taliban after the coalition did leave. The Afghan army didn't not deal with the taliban. It is pretty obvious that the training mission was a failure and it wouldn't have mattered if it went on another twenty years. There should have been a concentrated effort to get rid of the taliban instead of training the Afghan army to do it.


    I asked you to list any/all mistakes that Biden made.


    The only thing you have to say is that Taliban should have been hunted down?

    Are you serious?


    What about Biden relying on the Taliban for security of American forces?


    What about Biden turning down control of the airport after he was offered it by the Taliban?

    How about giving up control of Bagram Air Force Base?

    Tell me any mistakes that Joe made? Give me a list? Or did he make any besides not killing every member of the Taliban?
    Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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    • bsm2
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      #4277
      Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

      Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
      I asked you to list any/all mistakes that Biden made.


      The only thing you have to say is that Taliban should have been hunted down?

      Are you serious?


      What about Biden relying on the Taliban for security of American forces?


      What about Biden turning down control of the airport after he was offered it by the Taliban?

      How about giving up control of Bagram Air Force Base?

      Tell me any mistakes that Joe made? Give me a list? Or did he make any besides not killing every member of the Taliban?
      War. OVER Buddy

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      • Copier Addict
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        #4278
        Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
        I asked you to list any/all mistakes that Biden made.


        The only thing you have to say is that Taliban should have been hunted down?

        Are you serious?


        What about Biden relying on the Taliban for security of American forces?


        What about Biden turning down control of the airport after he was offered it by the Taliban?

        How about giving up control of Bagram Air Force Base?

        Tell me any mistakes that Joe made? Give me a list? Or did he make any besides not killing every member of the Taliban?

        Are you looking for me to say his biggest mistake was following donny boy's plan? Well, there you have it

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        • bsm2
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          #4279
          Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

          Good News Billy you can fly to Pakistan and Fight ON

          Bad News you have to wear a Mask

          With your on the job training you should NO Problem in Afghanistan.

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          • bsm2
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            Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

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            • BillyCarpenter
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              Originally posted by copier addict
              Are you looking for me to say his biggest mistake was following donny boy's plan? Well, there you have it


              I think it's clear that you either truly believe Biden did a good job or you flat out refuse to criticize him. In one breath you say that Joe should have hunted down the Taliban and when I point out that not only didn't he kill them but relied on them for security for our men and women of the armed forces. The same ones that were killed at the airport that the taliban was protecting.


              You're kinda all over the place but I've learned to accept that we have huge differences in opinion on most things. It is what it is.
              Last edited by BillyCarpenter; 08-30-2021, 06:19 PM.
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              • bsm2
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                #4282
                Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                I think it's clear that you either you truly believe Biden did a good job or you flat out refuse to criticize him. In one breath you say that Joe should have hunted down the Taliban and when I point out that not only didn't he kill them but relied on them for security for our men and women of the armed forces. The same ones that were killed at the airport that the taliban was protecting.


                You're kinda all over the place but I've learned to accept that we have huge differences in opinion on most things. It is what it is.
                Maybe the Trump Administration shouldn't have released 5,000 Prisoners.
                I don't see any comments from you
                Apparently your in denial

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                • FrohnB
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                  #4283
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                  Originally posted by bsm2
                  Maybe the Trump Administration shouldn't have released 5,000 Prisoners.
                  I don't see any comments from you
                  Apparently your in denial
                  Most of those Prisoners were released back in the summer of last year, and it was also an agreement between the Afghan government and the Taliban as an "exchange of prisoners". The Taliban had thousands of Afghan security forces as prisoners, and the Afghan government had thousands of Taliban members in custody. It was "essential to both sides" that this prisoner swap happened in order to continue peace talks.
                  By August 12th, 2020, The Afghan government had already released 4,600 of the 5,000 detainees that were part of the deal agreed upon by the Taliban and Afghan government. Ghani finally agreed to the release of the remaining prisoners after securing approval from Afghan tribal leaders on Aug. 9.


                  As long as we're talking about presidents releasing prisoners, let's bring Obummer into this!
                  Khairullah Khairkhwa was one of five Taliban commanders released from Guantanamo by Obama in exchange for American soldier Bowe Bergdahl.
                  Wonder how President Biden feels about essentially negotiating with a former Guantanamo detainee (released by his buddy Barry), who has now become a major figure within the Taliban, and helped to orchestrate the takeover of Kabul??? On top of that, obama released another 115 prisoners (75%) from Gitmo during his presidency, with nearly ALL of them re-engaging in "insurgent or terrorist activity".

                  So, this begs the question:
                  -Is this Ultimately Obama's fault for releasing super high ranking Taliban commanders who eventually plotted AND SUCCEEDED in taking over Afghanistan?
                  OR
                  -Is this Trump's fault for helping to broker a peace deal, with BOTH the Afghan government and Taliban requesting the "exchange of prisoners" that you say "Trump released"???
                  Omertà

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                  • bsm2
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                    #4284
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                    Nice Spin always back to Obama but the HEAD guy for the Taliban was Released by the TRUMP Administration DEAL

                    Sorry YOU LOSE

                    The last Four years of the Trump Administration training of the Afghan ARMY a COMPLETE DISASTER
                    they folded faster than a TRUMP Casino

                    PS the WARS OVER

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                    • bsm2
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                      St. Pete native & Afghanistan veteran takes gold in Paralympics triathlon

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                      • bsm2
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                        #4286
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                        Thank you for your service

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                        • BillyCarpenter
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                          Is this the very educated Taliban that I was told about? Sounds very cosmopolitan.


                          Report: Taliban Rape, Beat Gay Man Seeking to Escape from Kabul



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                          • Copier Addict
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                            #4288
                            Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                            Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                            I think it's clear that you either truly believe Biden did a good job or you flat out refuse to criticize him. In one breath you say that Joe should have hunted down the Taliban and when I point out that not only didn't he kill them but relied on them for security for our men and women of the armed forces. The same ones that were killed at the airport that the taliban was protecting.


                            You're kinda all over the place but I've learned to accept that we have huge differences in opinion on most things. It is what it is.

                            Anyone who trusts a extreme religious group to keep their word is an idiot. That includes donny boy and biden

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                            • BillyCarpenter
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                              Biden is leaving Americans behind to die.



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                                US military conducted "largest non-combatant evacuation" in its history, Pentagon says


                                The US military conducted the “largest non-combatant evacuation” in the military’s history over the past 18-day period starting on Aug.14, Gen. Frank McKenzie, the top general of US Central Command said on Monday.

                                In the 18 days, the US military evacuated 79,000 civilians from Hamid Karzai International Airport, he added.
                                Out of the 79,000 evacuated, that included 6,000 Americans and more than 73,000 third-country and Afghan civilians, McKenzie said.

                                "This last category includes Special Immigrant Visas, consular staff, at-risk Afghans and their families," he said.

                                “In total, US and coalition aircraft combined to evacuate more than 123,000 civilians which were all enabled by US military service members who were securing and operating the airfield,” Mckenzie explained.

                                During the evacuation mission, the US military evacuated “more than 7,500 civilians” on average over the 18 days, including evacuating 19,000 on a single day during the mission, McKenzie said.

                                "The numbers I provided represent an accomplishment, but they do not do justice to the determination, the grit, the flexibility, and the professionalism of the men and women of the US military and our coalition partners who were able to rapidly combine efforts and evacuate so many under such difficult conditions," he said.

                                ... this one day early completion of the mission to evacuate from Kabul surprised many including those wishing harm against the USA.

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