Gun Control

[DWise]

Re: Gun Control

If you own a gun you should take the time to get to the range a few times a month and practice at the least.
The best thing is to join USPSA or similar and you can get some better practice. I don't think you should rely
on the police to save you.

I partially agree... if you are unfamiliar with guns, go to the range and get acquainted as often as possible.

But if you are familiar with guns, there is no need in going to a range a few times a month, unless you just enjoy shooting.

[Akitu]

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If you own a gun you should take the time to get to the range a few times a month and practice at the least.
The best thing is to join USPSA or similar and you can get some better practice. I don't think you should rely
on the police to save you.

With great power comes great responsibility.


Now I lay me down to sleep,
beside my bed a Glock I keep,
If I wake and your inside,
A coroner's van will soon arrive.

This is a great story to tie into your comment about relying on the police.

Subway stabbing shows police protection is a legal myth - National gun rights | Examiner.com

[jbauer@abcvpr.com]

Re: Gun Control

If you own a gun you should take the time to get to the range a few times a month and practice at the least.
The best thing is to join USPSA or similar and you can get some better practice. I don't think you should rely
on the police to save you.

With great power comes great responsibility.


Now I lay me down to sleep,
beside my bed a Glock I keep,
If I wake and your inside,
A coroner's van will soon arrive.

[Akitu]

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Guns don't kill people, angry postal workers do.

[DWise]

Re: Gun Control

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[Shadow]

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I see this as a debate between people who place their faith in men and those who place their faith in guns. Historically the people who placed their faith in guns come out ahead. The people putting their faith in men are usually called peasants or victims.

by placing faith in men with guns is what we do with our police and military forces on a daily basis.
to have faith in your neighbor with a gun is something completely different, is he/she capable and knows when to and not to use their firearm.
all those against educated responsible firearms ownership, please raise both hands and be a good peasant/victim ..................................

[imthinman]

Re: Gun Control

I see this as a debate between people who place their faith in men and those who place their faith in guns. Historically the people who placed their faith in guns come out ahead. The people putting their faith in men are usually called peasants or victims.

[fixthecopier]

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*Edit* I'll laugh so incredibly hard I may very well suffocate on the day I'm asked to service a 3D printer.

I want that call. I want to look at the customer and say "I brought the program to replicate the parts we need to fix the printer, problem is, the printer won't work til we put the parts in, and we can't put them in til we print them, but we can't print them til we get the printer working......

[DWise]

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Interesting read...

<snip>
While gun crime fell dramatically over the last 20 years, crimes committed without guns fell just as fast.

Gottlieb had an explanation for that.


“All crime has basically been going down. And that’s because more people have firearms to protect themselves,” he said.

While firearm ownership rates have been relatively flat according to survey data, many more people now have licenses to carry guns on their person. The number of states with laws that give people a right to carry handguns outside of the home – known as “shall-issue concealed-carry laws” -- has increased dramatically over the last 20 years, going from 16 states in 1993 to 43 now.


Estimates show that guns are used in self-defense between 100,000 and 2 million times each year. Overlooking that, Gottlieb said, is the media’s biggest error.


“You never hear about defensive gun uses. Every time there’s a tragedy, there’s a call for gun control. But every time a gun is used in self defense – usually it doesn’t make the news, and you never hear a call for relaxing the gun laws so more people can defend themselves.”

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Read the full story here: Bullet point: Gun crimes dropping, despite public perception | Fox News

[Akitu]

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3D printing, while a very nifty thing indeed, still has its limitations right now.

While a gun can be 3D printed and fired, the durability will be nothing compared to a solid steel gun and it'll likely shatter several rounds into business.

That doesn't make it any less alarming however... Staples is the first majour US retailer to carry 3D printers, at only the low cost of $1200.
We can rest assured knowing angry copy techs will never be able to go the way of the postman. Which of us has $1200 to spend on a 3D printer?

*Edit* I'll laugh so incredibly hard I may very well suffocate on the day I'm asked to service a 3D printer.

[DWise]

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Uh oh... we are now PRINTING our guns. I guess 3-D printers will be the next thing to be outlawed

Shots fired from world's first 3D-printed gun | Fox News

[Darren King]

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they won't allow us to have CCW permits here................................

Thank goodness for that!

[Shadow]

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At least I had my CCW permit.

they won't allow us to have CCW permits here................................

[HenryT2]

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Got into a heated debate with a co-worker inre..guns. He thinks guns should be banned, period, for all non military/police US citizens..As a supporter of the 1st ammendment I support his right to hold this opinion, however, I think he's an idiot...


I am not a drug runner/ dealer, nor am I involved in any organized crime so therefore, I would never expect to be in a situation where multiple bad guys with fully automatic weapons are after me..Not saying it couldn't happen, but the possibility is very low...I also don't believe the average US citizen should be allowed to own a true military style fully automatic weapon. I don't own any weapons, but I do occasionaly get the oppourtuntity to go to the range and do a little target shooting, we shoot 9mm, .38, .22 cal and 223 ARs and .360s. The latter 3 all look just like the media's description of "assault weapons", but, reflecting back on my Navy days and having to qualify using truly "full auto" weapons, I can assure they are not. They are excellent weapons for target shooting, hunting, and maybe some close in defense, but against a well armed Mexican cartel, the Mafia, or a paramilitary group they are pretty useless. So here's my opinion....

The 2nd ammendment gives us the right to bear arms...I don't think the founding fathers really meant for us to use this right to defend ourselves against a "Crazed" government, the mob, or the cartel, but to protect us from the average criminal with the same type of weapons. No amount of executive orders are going to stop the insane, but determined bad guy from shooting up a mall, church, school. If you have enough money, or the skills to steal one you can obtain what you want. What banning guns from the average US citizen will do is make it impossible for that same average US citizen to defend him/herself from that average criminal. So, possibly in the future, if guns are banned, the average criminal that wants to rob you at gunpoint will have nothing to worry about..You no longer are leagaly able to own that little handgun that may have saved you, or a friend/family members life...If we had banned the manufacture of guns around the time of the musket, then maybe this would be a piontless discussion today, but we didn't.
Background checks OK, I'm even OK with banning private sales, to easy to fool the seller. Previous problems with the law?? OK, no gun. A little mentally unstable?? Certainly, no gun for you (Soup Nazi style).
But, if you are a law abiding, responsible US citizen, then if you want a gun, then I'm Ok with it.

I saw this the other day .....

Read more: California governor signs bill to speed up gun seizures | Fox News

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Previous problems with the law?? OK, no gun. A little mentally unstable?? Certainly, no gun for you (Soup Nazi style).
But, if you are a law abiding, responsible US citizen, then if you want a gun, then I'm Ok with it. EMujo

SEE !!! The Government needs to enforce the rules already in place .... NOT ADD MORE RULES !!!

SO LEAVE MY RIGHTS ALONE !!!

[DWise]

Re: Gun Control

DWise was shooting blanks in his previous post............................

At least I had my CCW permit.