Gun Control

[SalesServiceGuy]

Re: Gun Control

Most of the murders are from handguns . Rifles were used in 358 murders in the year 2010. So called assult rifles are not the problem. There are close to 20,000 laws on the books reguarding firearms. Do you really think a few more are going to have any effect on the murder rate?

Yes, you are correct. The vast majority of the murder/ suicides in the USA are due to hand guns. Similarly, although a much smaller number, the vast majority of mass killings in the USA are due to assault guns. And yes, according to President Obama, if just one more gun law prevents one more death from firearms then it is worth it.

[SalesServiceGuy]

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Snoop Lion Urges Congress to Move on Gun Control


Reincarnated rapper wants politicians to put restrictions on gun purchases.

Snoop Lion Urges Congress to Move on Gun Control | News | BET

Snoop Lion is among the many Americans who want Congress to make a move on a new gun control policy. Visiting HuffPo Live, Snoop weighed in on the issue, urging politicians to open their eyes. "Politicians, you all got to pay attention, man," he said. "This world that we live in, it's so easy to get your hands on a gun. You've got to put some restrictions or ramifications on it. I can go outside right now and buy a gun. Easy. Just like that. You all should really think about it before it hits home, before it hits one of your family members or it hits you or affects someone personally that you know."



By Latifah Muhammad
Posted: 04/23/2013 02:45 PM EDT

Filed Under Sandy Hook School Shooting, Columbine, President Obama, Snoop Lion, Snoop Dogg, Music News, Sandy Hook Elementary, Trayvon Martin

[fixthecopier]

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Maybe to make this thread more productive, we should post tips about how not to get shot in America. i have a couple.

When traveling on the road in America, don't flip anybody off, they may have a gun.

If you are involved in a verbal confrontation with someone and they turn and walk back to their car, you better run, they are going to get their gun.

Never joke about robbing a place, the clerk has a gun.

If you are in the rural south, everyone is armed.

At a bar or club, the safest place is inside, all the guns are in the parking lot.

You should only hear firecrackers on July 4th and New Years Eve.The rest of the year it's going to be gunfire.

If you are somewhere there is a lot of people and a bunch of them start running...RUN!


I hope this helps any of you planning to visit.

[MR Bill]

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At the time the 2A was written the brown bess musket was the most powerful weapon of it's day. So having a semi auto rifle or handgun today is in line with what the founding fathers of this country would have expected. Background checks, I don't care one way or the other. 10 round clips, don't care one way or the other. Niether one will make any differance.

[Tonerbomb]

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At the time the 2A was written the brown bess musket was the most powerful weapon of it's day. So having a semi auto rifle or handgun today is in line with what the founding fathers of this country would have expected. Background checks, I don't care one way or the other. 10 round clips, don't care one way or the other. Niether one will make any differance.

Well put MR. Bill

[Iowatech]

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Wow! What a video... and many people whine that proposed laws restricting large capacity ammo clips for civilian use impedes their rights under the 2A. The 2A was written in 1791, 222 years ago.

Certainly, if the muskets of the time were still being commonly used today there would be a lot fewer bullets sold and a lot fewer firearms fatalities and a lot less profits for the gun industry.

Oh, wait, you don't have any of the guarantees listed in the Bill Of Rights. That stinks.

[rh112]

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[fixthecopier]

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Snoop Lion is among the many Americans who want Congress to make a move on a new gun control policy. Visiting HuffPo Live, Snoop weighed in on the issue, urging politicians to open their eyes. "Politicians, you all got to pay attention, man," he said. "This world that we live in, it's so easy to get your hands on a gun. You've got to put some restrictions or ramifications on it. I can go outside right now and buy a gun. Easy. Just like that. You all should really think about it before it hits home, before it hits one of your family members or it hits you or affects someone personally that you know."

By Latifah Muhammad
Posted: 04/23/2013 02:45 PM EDT

Filed Under Sandy Hook School Shooting, Columbine, President Obama, Snoop Lion, Snoop Dogg, Music News, Sandy Hook Elementary, Trayvon Martin

Snoop also said

Later on that day
My homey Dr. Dre came through with a gang of Tanqueray
And a fat ass J, of some bubonic chronic that made me choke
Shit, this ain't no joke
I had to back up off of it and sit my cup down
Tanqueray and chronic, yeah I'm fucked up now
But it ain't no stoppin, I'm still poppin
Dre got some bitches from the city of Compton
To serve me, not with a cherry on top
Cause when I bust my nut, I'm raisin up off the cot
Don't get upset girl, that's just how it goes
I don't love you hoes, I'm out the do'
And I'll be

The man is a poet!

[Akitu]

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10 Pro-Gun Myths, Shot Down | Mother Jones

Interesting article here, backed by sources. Anyone care to comment?

[Shadow]

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Oh, wait, you don't have any of the guarantees listed in the Bill Of Rights. That stinks.

Right to bear arms

The right to bear arms has existed in English common law for at least 300 years and is imported into Canadian law by the preamble of the BNA Act, 1867 and section 26 of the Charter. Section 26 declares that traditional rights not listed in the Charter continue to have force and effect in Canada. The first explicit recognition of the right to bear arms in British-Canadian law occurs in the 1689 Bill of Rights. It is re-affirmed by the celebrated Blackstone in his Commentaries as one of the five most important rights of British subjects; and confirmed in several 18th and 19th century precedents. Although this right is subject to regulation by parliament, in Sparrow (1990), the Supreme Court affirmed that regulation of a right does not automatically extinguish the right. The right to bear arms is thus an historical right of all Canadians; affirmed by section 26 of the Charter.

[Iowatech]

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Right to bear arms

The right to bear arms has existed in English common law for at least 300 years and is imported into Canadian law by the preamble of the BNA Act, 1867 and section 26 of the Charter. Section 26 declares that traditional rights not listed in the Charter continue to have force and effect in Canada. The first explicit recognition of the right to bear arms in British-Canadian law occurs in the 1689 Bill of Rights. It is re-affirmed by the celebrated Blackstone in his Commentaries as one of the five most important rights of British subjects; and confirmed in several 18th and 19th century precedents. Although this right is subject to regulation by parliament, in Sparrow (1990), the Supreme Court affirmed that regulation of a right does not automatically extinguish the right. The right to bear arms is thus an historical right of all Canadians; affirmed by section 26 of the Charter.

Dang, that didn't work in this case even a little bit.
First of all, thanks for the info. I had no idea, and if you want you can call me a lazy dope or something for not finding that out.
On the other hand, while Canada is probably the greatest neighbor a country like the United States could possibly have, and while the Bill of Rights is based on British common law, the Bill of Rights is something unique to the United States. As such, I get annoyed when "SalesServiceGuy" tries to insert himself into that, and I'm just trying to make him prove his point.

[Shadow]

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Iowatech,

I am in no way trying to slight you in the least, how are you to know what our Canadian Constitution, British North American Act and Charter of Rights contains.
I too am frustrated with SalesServiceGuy's continual cut & paste antics. It seems that all he can do is quote from news reports and political posturing.
I posed a question to him asking what he was afraid of, and there was no solid answer from him.
I am sure that he will sit and read this post and have another misinformed opinion and be looking for something else that he can cut & paste in an attempt to solidify his position.
I try to keep myself informed about the American Constitution and Bill of Rights, as one of my great grandmothers was an American Citizen. I am a blood decedent of one of your nations notorious outlaws, I like to keep informed.
I have family in Minnesota, New York, Texas and California.

I hate to say this, but;

No matter how many laws there are on the books, there will still be persons with firearms that misuse them.
Some of those firearms will be legally obtained, and many not so.
You must take in to consideration that a firearm by its self is not deadly.
The person that has possession of that firearm can, and should, be considered deadly.

[Akitu]

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I recognized the copy-pasta method was ill-received so I changed my own tactics on posting the things I felt might be interesting for the sake of conversation. So far nobody has responded to my last post, can't be certain how to interpret that - as either a foot in a mouth or an insignificant blip on the radar.

[MR Bill]

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OK Atitu , You really believe what Mother Jones has to say. Really bias reporting and NOT truthful.I started reading the 10 myths and had to stop at #4. It say #4. More good guys with guns can stop rampaging bad guys. So it say # of mass shooting stopped by armed civiians in the last 30 years== 0 as in Zero. That is compleat BS. Google Clackamas Mall shooter. From Clackamas , Oregon. Story about a Shiiithead punk that went into the mall and killed 2 people. He was going to kill lots more. I think his gun jammed but he got it working and blow himself away . OH, are you going to say the LEGEL CCW holder didn't kill him so that doesnt count?? Please. Yes the CCW holder stopped him from a mass killing spree. This happened a few days after Sandy Hook. Didn't here andthing about it did you. Talk about bias reporting.

[Akitu]

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OK Atitu , You really believe what Mother Jones has to say. Really bias reporting and NOT truthful.I started reading the 10 myths and had to stop at #4. It say #4. More good guys with guns can stop rampaging bad guys. So it say # of mass shooting stopped by armed civiians in the last 30 years== 0 as in Zero. That is compleat BS. Google Clackamas Mall shooter. From Clackamas , Oregon. Story about a Shiiithead punk that went into the mall and killed 2 people. He was going to kill lots more. I think his gun jammed but he got it working and blow himself away . OH, are you going to say the LEGEL CCW holder didn't kill him so that doesnt count?? Please. Yes the CCW holder stopped him from a mass killing spree. This happened a few days after Sandy Hook. Didn't here andthing about it did you. Talk about bias reporting.

I didn't believe it. I found the article interesting and posted seeking the opinions of someone with a more vested interest than myself. Nowhere in my post did I say how I felt one way or the other.

Cool story though.