The random thought thread

[TheBlueOrleans]

Re: The random thought thread

I guess Trump isn't a true conservative. He lied his way through the whole election.

I will respond to the first sentence and completely disregard the second sentence, because I'm a horrible person (or so I've been informed). Anybody hear about Trump being referred to as a "true conservative", or even a conservative at all? All I know is what Hillary did is so unfathomably worse than what Trump said.

[Copier Addict]

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provide proof of your statement or are you just being a parrot?

damn I wish the was a block option!

Okay. He said Hillary started Isis. Lie
No need to block me. I will not try to have an intelligent conversation with someone is unwilling to look deeper into something than the info he is spoon fed by the right wing media.

[TheBlueOrleans]

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By supporting the overthrow of Hosni Mubarak in Egypt (bringing about the Arab Spring) as well as the overthrow of Muammar Qaddafi in Libya, a vacuum in leadership in two powerful Muslim countries was created. (There were many other uprisings against regimes in the region, but those are the two most recognized as being directly causative.) Hillary did not singlehandedly cause the formation of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, but she damn sure facilitated it. President Barack Obama (Soetoro) and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton both had a hand in causing the shift of power from two influential (albeit awful) leaders/dictators to radical fundamentalist Muslim clerics, whipping up their followers to attack anything to do with Western civilization.


That's not blindly following "right-wing news", that is called paying fucking attention.

[Copier Addict]

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By supporting the overthrow of Hosni Mubarak in Egypt (bringing about the Arab Spring) as well as the overthrow of Muammar Qaddafi in Libya, a vacuum in leadership in two powerful Muslim countries was created. (There were many other uprisings against regimes in the region, but those are the two most recognized as being directly causative.) Hillary did not singlehandedly cause the formation of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, but she damn sure facilitated it. President Barack Obama (Soetoro) and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton both had a hand in causing the shift of power from two influential (albeit awful) leaders/dictators to radical fundamentalist Muslim clerics, whipping up their followers to attack anything to do with Western civilization.


That's not blindly following "right-wing news", that is called paying fucking attention.

To blame the middle east problems on one president is not "paying fucking attention" It is being blind to fact that the problems started long before Obama or Hillary.

[slimslob]

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To blame the middle east problems on one president is not "paying fucking attention" It is being blind to fact that the problems started long before Obama or Hillary.

The following starts in 1970. It does not include everything as it does not include the Iranian hostage crisis.
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[slimslob]

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I guess Trump isn't a true conservative.

Never said that he was. My first choice Ted Cruz.

He lied his way through the whole election.

Not anywhere near as much as Hillary Clinton. Oh wait, that right, she just can't remember anything wen questioned about possible illegal activities.

[slimslob]

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Okay. He said Hillary started Isis.

In a way she did. Were it not for actions taken by the US while she was Secretary of State, ISIS would have never gotten started.

[Copier Addict]

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In a way she did. Were it not for actions taken by the US while she was Secretary of State, ISIS would have never gotten started.

There has almost always been a group of radicals in the middle east. To blame ISIS on one or two people is rather short sighted. You could go all the way back to the Crusades for western interference in middle eastern business as a possible starting point. You really can't just go back a few years and say it all started there. And don't forget. the Bush's had there fingers in the middle eastern pie as well. I'm not saying Obama and Hillary are innocent, but they aren't the only ones to blame for the mess in the middle east.

[Santander]

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To blame the middle east problems on one president is not "paying fucking attention" It is being blind to fact that the problems started long before Obama or Hillary.

You are the one who is Blind and not paying the fucking attention! Destabilizing Egypt, drawing a red line in the sand in Syria and then doing shit, bombing Libya only then to trade weapons to radicals in Benghazi where four Americans were left to die, yes I can blame one president, Obama and his useful idiot Hillary. Do you remember the lie that it was a 'video" that caused the Benghazi attack? Stalin said many decades ago that useful idiots like you would be able to bring the USA down if their lies were not challenged because he could not do it from outside the US. You have no fucking clue what is going on and are not worthy of any cognitive response!

[TheBlueOrleans]

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There has almost always been a group of radicals in the middle east. To blame ISIS on one or two people is rather short sighted. You could go all the way back to the Crusades for western interference in middle eastern business as a possible starting point. You really can't just go back a few years and say it all started there. And don't forget. the Bush's had there fingers in the middle eastern pie as well. I'm not saying Obama and Hillary are innocent, but they aren't the only ones to blame for the mess in the middle east.

The Crusades began as a defensive response to an ever-increasing onslaught of Muslim (moorish) barbarism and violence. It was akin to saying "this far but no further".
It went downhill after that, becoming a slaughterfest on both sides, supposedly "justified" by religious leadership at the time. Don't get me started on Papism.

It could also be traced back to Ishmael, son of Abraham.
Regardless of when the conflicts in Mesopotamia started, they continue to this day because there is no earthly way to end it. We cannot stop the ocean, but if we find a way to stem the tide we can live in relative peace a little longer. I did a thing, there. It's early (for me) and I'm off for five days so my sleep schedule is whacked.



And to respond to another poster's question, yes and no. Most people in central Ohio are a-holes only when pushed beyond their tolerable limits. I've been beyond mine for just slightly over four years. Perhaps I should take time to reflect and consider changing my online persona to be a bit more like I am on the outside.

[Copier Addict]

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The Crusades began as a defensive response to an ever-increasing onslaught of Muslim (moorish) barbarism and violence. It was akin to saying "this far but no further".
It went downhill after that, becoming a slaughterfest on both sides, supposedly "justified" by religious leadership at the time. Don't get me started on Papism.

It could also be traced back to Ishmael, son of Abraham.
Regardless of when the conflicts in Mesopotamia started, they continue to this day because there is no earthly way to end it. We cannot stop the ocean, but if we find a way to stem the tide we can live in relative peace a little longer. I did a thing, there. It's early (for me) and I'm off for five days so my sleep schedule is whacked.



And to respond to another poster's question, yes and no. Most people in central Ohio are a-holes only when pushed beyond their tolerable limits. I've been beyond mine for just slightly over four years. Perhaps I should take time to reflect and consider changing my online persona to be a bit more like I am on the outside.

The Crusades was a Catholic Church sanctioned war to regain Jerusalem. Possibly the first western meddling, but definitely not the last.

[Copier Addict]

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Brother you are talking to a brick wall.. he is a hillary liberal and feels she and obama are gold. Don't blister your fingers trying to convince him... It's gotten to the point that I try not to respond to him.

I honestly don't give a rats ass about hillary. I have never stated that either one is gold. And being liberal is not a bad thing. Just to clear things up.
No response needed.

[nottoosharp]

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The Crusades was a Catholic Church sanctioned war to regain Jerusalem. Possibly the first western meddling, but definitely not the last.

Smart fellow up there^^^
The pope ordered the first of nine official holy crusades against Islam. There were several lesser campaigns as well.


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[slimslob]

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There has almost always been a group of radicals in the middle east. To blame ISIS on one or two people is rather short sighted. You could go all the way back to the Crusades for western interference in middle eastern business as a possible starting point. You really can't just go back a few years and say it all started there. And don't forget. the Bush's had there fingers in the middle eastern pie as well. I'm not saying Obama and Hillary are innocent, but they aren't the only ones to blame for the mess in the middle east.

Had Obama not pulled our troops out of Iraq, against the advice of military intelligence(I know that's an oxymoron), there would not have been a void that ISIS in Iraq filled. As for Hillary, if the assumption that the State Department was running weapons to the rebels in Syria is true, the rebels that the weapons were going to was the beginning of ISIS in Syria.

[slimslob]

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I honestly don't give a rats ass about hillary. I have never stated that either one is gold. And being liberal is not a bad thing. Just to clear things up.
No response needed.

What you have posted previously to this discussion in this thread does not support what you are now saying.