Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

[FMC]

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As of today the biggest pile of shite is still and will always be the Venus range of machines.

It's the machine that keeps giving. Now the bearings on the metal cover (stupidly designed) that you take off to access the PCU's are starting to bind to the drum ground shaft. I enjoyed 90 minutes of fun removing that.

[vamoursly]

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Currently the Canon IRA 2020 range. Loathsome and unreliable.

Canon IRA 2020 is truly a shocker

V

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Ubix 420......duplex used to break ma heart.....lol

[dannydub]

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Sharp SF 825,heap of mechincal rubbish!

[HenryT2]

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There was 1 good thing about the superstat, The fluid pump. I still have 1 that I connected an AC cord to and a piece of plastic hose.It has an an adjustable knob on it for the volume of the pump. I use it as an air pump for my minnow bucket, when I have live bait at home..........

I was not into the hobby of woodworking at that time....but, I removed the heat elements from the APECO dryer blowers and we hung them over my brother-in-laws wood lathe to keep the tool rest clean ( still works by the way ) .
Wish I had one for my lathe now. OH WELL !

[slimslob]

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Anyone remember the 3M ' DRY COPIER' a pack of paper 100 sheets was about $50 and the sheets were sensitised and had a shelf life of 3 months, the 1st sheet (pink) was was placed on the ' Platen' with the original and exposed to 20 very bright lamps which burned for about 30 secs to etch the image, the pink sheet was then removed and aligned onto the 2nd 'White' paper (with the 'Blue Flame' facing out), the 2 sheets were then fed through the Hot Roller Unit which took about a minute to exit, if the 'Pink' sheet didn't crease & the exposure (in step 1) wasn't too short or too long or the paper hadn't reached it's 'useby date' , then you would have a sort of copy that could be used, however if filed away for a couple of months & was required for recopy or evidence .....the sheet would be BLANK.

3m should just stay with Sticky Tape.

If you stored the copies anywhere near a heat source or exposed to the sun, they would turn black. We always told our customers that the copies were not archieveable.

[canonbundy]

Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

Anyone remember the 3M ' DRY COPIER' a pack of paper 100 sheets was about $50 and the sheets were sensitised and had a shelf life of 3 months, the 1st sheet (pink) was was placed on the ' Platen' with the original and exposed to 20 very bright lamps which burned for about 30 secs to etch the image, the pink sheet was then removed and aligned onto the 2nd 'White' paper (with the 'Blue Flame' facing out), the 2 sheets were then fed through the Hot Roller Unit which took about a minute to exit, if the 'Pink' sheet didn't crease & the exposure (in step 1) wasn't too short or too long or the paper hadn't reached it's 'useby date' , then you would have a sort of copy that could be used, however if filed away for a couple of months & was required for recopy or evidence .....the sheet would be BLANK.

3m should just stay with Sticky Tape.

[Tonerbomb]

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I will agree with HenryT2. The main cause of jamming on the Super Stat, Super Deuce, and the Roll-a-matic were the wire guides under the dryer blowers. Those guides were actually about 1/32 of an inch too low. The lead edge of the paper would hit the exposed edge of the blower and wrap back around the squeegee roller. Reshaped the guide wires and squeegee roller jams stopped.

I started working on office equipment in 1972. One of the older techs I worked told me about an older model of Apeco, the Dial-A-Matic. It actually had a rotary dial phone type dial on top for selecting the number of copies. He said most techs called it the dial-a-jam.

There was 1 good thing about the superstat, The fluid pump. I still have 1 that I connected an AC cord to and a piece of plastic hose.It has an an adjustable knob on it for the volume of the pump. I use it as an air pump for my minnow bucket, when I have live bait at home..........

[slimslob]

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Hi

The worst machine I ever had to work on was an Apico Super Stat this machine was an American
made machine. We had to use coat hangers to remove paper jams. I have been working on office machines for over 40 Years. The first copier I had the pleasure of working on was an AB Dick Model
110. Man have things change

Bill

Customers are still using coat hangers to try to remove paper jams, are you telling us we can now blame you for this?

HEY !!! I liked those ....... a little .

I will agree with HenryT2. The main cause of jamming on the Super Stat, Super Deuce, and the Roll-a-matic were the wire guides under the dryer blowers. Those guides were actually about 1/32 of an inch too low. The lead edge of the paper would hit the exposed edge of the blower and wrap back around the squeegee roller. Reshaped the guide wires and squeegee roller jams stopped.

I started working on office equipment in 1972. One of the older techs I worked told me about an older model of Apeco, the Dial-A-Matic. It actually had a rotary dial phone type dial on top for selecting the number of copies. He said most techs called it the dial-a-jam.

[Doug James]

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Konica Magicolor, Some Canon Image-class color. When one color counter reaches the total count it will shut the copier down. Basically shutting down a working printer. So, in short the customer is unable to print on a printer that they paid for because the machine extorts money. It is criminal...

[j morton]

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This is the thread that keeps giving and giving...
When will we ever run out of copiers that aren't a POS!

[DavePo]

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Hi

The worst machine I ever had to work on was an Apico Super Stat this machine was an American
made machine. We had to use coat hangers to remove paper jams. I have been working on office machines for over 40 Years. The first copier I had the pleasure of working on was an AB Dick Model
110. Man have things change

Bill

I remember the ABD 110. POS! And I agree what a change in 25years .

[HenryT2]

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The worst machine I ever had to work on was an Apico Super Stat

Bill

HEY !!! I liked those ....... a little .

[Akitu]

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Hi

The worst machine I ever had to work on was an Apico Super Stat this machine was an American
made machine. We had to use coat hangers to remove paper jams. I have been working on office machines for over 40 Years. The first copier I had the pleasure of working on was an AB Dick Model
110. Man have things change

Bill

Customers are still using coat hangers to try to remove paper jams, are you telling us we can now blame you for this?

Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

Hi

The worst machine I ever had to work on was an Apico Super Stat this machine was an American
made machine. We had to use coat hangers to remove paper jams. I have been working on office machines for over 40 Years. The first copier I had the pleasure of working on was an AB Dick Model
110. Man have things change

Bill