Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

[CompyTech]

Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

I'm fairly new to this game an haven't worked on too many, so the worst machine I think I have seen as far as being a cheap POS is the KonicaMinolta bizhub181 and the C10. Also had some fun adventures with the C252 and bizhub 500.

Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

I know I am aging myself....but I seem to recall back in the 'Old liquid' copier days of SAVIN's.... there was a conversion kit process that we could install on any liquid SAVIN copier a customer had that would allow the liquid SAVIN to be able to produce a nice rich , dark black solid fill copy like the NEW 'powder' copiers.....this NEW technololgy was called the "LANDA Process' which dealers were encouraged to sell by the hundreds. After we installed many, many of these conversion kits we started having problems with heater plate thermal meltdowns and some copiers actually catching on fire! It got so bad that a group of independent SAVIN dealers got together and had a Class action lawsuit against SAVIN and won. So there is a trip down memory lane for some of you younger techs.

[mushy]

Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

Based on the number of tech bulletins (a 3 in. binder full) it had to be the Konica 4003, then they had a lct that was unbelievable

[ExXeroid]

Re: Which copier was the biggest peice of crap ever?

Any Copier with RMFD (ReManufactured) next to the Serial # Example Xerox 1065.
Any Tech will tell you it stands for Ruin My F**king Day

[excanonguy]

Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

We all hate what we don't know, personally its Toshiba, does the software end of it ever go right?

Not that I have seen lol!

[Toner Boy]

Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

Now I like the old SD Sharps, 2060's,2260, they were alright, the 3062 with that finisher was a beast though, and the RDH, argh, but over all not bad machine, now the old SF 7800 bunch, now them were some POS.
But I have quickly learned, any mach you dont know too well gets to stinking real fast, even faster when you never seen it, and trying to figure out just how to get into it.

We all hate what we don't know, personally its Toshiba, does the software end of it ever go right?

[excanonguy]

someone nominated the canon np3725 in an earlier thread. From memory the np3725 was an upgraded np3525. Let me list common faults for the np3525.....aluminium pressure roller bearings would colapse, corona end blocks made from wrong type of plastic would burn out, all spring clutches would seize including dev drive, registration, duplex drive, paper feed, web drive gears would colapse, main motor brushes sticking, pale grey copies from bad dev unit design, dev bearings seize, paper lift gears braking, pcu seizes when waste full, control panel buttons fail, oneway bearings fail. All this and more at every service !!! POS

You have a great memory !! I had forgotten half those problems...the funny thing is the 2015's and 4540's that came out at the same time were just as bad or worse pieces of garbage lol!

[Tricky]

canon irc3100

I believe the 'FP' in the old Panasonic analogs stood for 'freakin' pile'!!! =oD

Likewise i believe the IRC3100

stands for

Incapable of Running Correctly

Or

Inconsistently Reliable Copies

I may be wrong though...

[mjunkaged]

I believe the 'FP' in the old Panasonic analogs stood for 'freakin' pile'!!! =oD

[scanzmgs]

canon irc3100

Kleezz

All analog sharp copiers.

[BLADE]

someone nominated the canon np3725 in an earlier thread. From memory the np3725 was an upgraded np3525. Let me list common faults for the np3525.....aluminium pressure roller bearings would colapse, corona end blocks made from wrong type of plastic would burn out, all spring clutches would seize including dev drive, registration, duplex drive, paper feed, web drive gears would colapse, main motor brushes sticking, pale grey copies from bad dev unit design, dev bearings seize, paper lift gears braking, pcu seizes when waste full, control panel buttons fail, oneway bearings fail. All this and more at every service !!! POS

[vincent64]

We still have some of those SDs still cranking away at 5-6+ million, and the 3062 RDH along with the 4085 were a nightmare.

5 and 6 million...wow...where ya'll getting parts from, supplies from Katun I guess, but did not think Sharp still parts for them beasties any more, or ya'll still have some parts machines hidden away

[lcastillo5]

Panasonic FP-1530 and FP-2030 If you could fix those P.O.S. without a recall you could probably work on a space shuttle, and god knows those are a P.O.S. too.

[JVC]

As far as analog the Minolta 4320 was the worst when it first came out, although a few years later the ones left in my territory were the best machines I had.

Digital the 3511/4511 had to be the worst. I did get pretty good tearing it apart after a while.