Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

[seansbar]

Xerox 56xx family, Its predecessors and successors, Hate them.

[mark921]

Ok something I worked on years ago had that LFA thingy too but I was working on Lanier/Toshiba at the time.
Ring any bells?

Entirely possible...but never worked on Lanier/Toshiba products.

[Jimbo1]

Ok something I worked on years ago had that LFA thingy too but I was working on Lanier/Toshiba at the time.
Ring any bells?

[mark921]

and what is a LFA? sounds like xeroxspeak to me

The LFA (Lens Fiber Array) was the device (pre laser) which focused the image of the original on the drum. It was appr 1" deep, by 11" long. Basically, it was a series of glass tubes embedded in plastic. The ends of the tubes soiled quickly as the device was located close to the development area.

The NP 120 might have come first...this goes back 20 yrs. You are correct, the NP 120 used pressure only (and i mean a LOT of pressure) for fusing, and produced a very shiny copy regardless of stock. I remember trying to explain why a customers raised letterhead was no longer raised after copying.

I am with you on that one, I hate the fucking thing!

[slybot]

The Canon NP-200. the first dry mono component toner machine produced. They put the LFA right above the toner hopper, which threw the dust on the bottom of the LFA which caused dirty copies. It had a moving platen, and also the worlds worst drum compensation system which constantly needed adjustment.

and what is a LFA? sounds like xeroxspeak to me

[slybot]

The Canon NP-200. the first dry mono component toner machine produced. They put the LFA right above the toner hopper, which threw the dust on the bottom of the LFA which caused dirty copies. It had a moving platen, and also the worlds worst drum compensation system which constantly needed adjustment.

i would have thought the canon np120 was would have been the first monocomponent m/c of canons. the one with a 16 kilo fuser unit that ran on pressure only. please correct me if i'm wrong, but worked on a couple of 120's years ago

[djdan73]

SAVIN LIQUID MACHINES ALL WERE PIGS. DO YOU TECHS REMEMBER THE 9040i? THAT WAS SAVIN'S LAST STAND AND IT SUCKED.

i worked on all the savin liquids for years and i loved them they were work horses messy but work horses

[JR2ALTA]

Kyocera had a fire sale on their remaining C4008s. My boss thought it'd be a great idea to buy 10 of them. Since then we've lost 10 customers.

[mark921]

The Canon NP-200. the first dry mono component toner machine produced. They put the LFA right above the toner hopper, which threw the dust on the bottom of the LFA which caused dirty copies. It had a moving platen, and also the worlds worst drum compensation system which constantly needed adjustment.

[galumina]

The Monroe 4035 was always breaking down for some reason or another never should have been
made. junk machine and I could mention a couple others

[Tricky]

I'm starting to think anything with Toshiba on it...grrr

Being based in the workshop I was given the job of replacing the old Toshiba 2500, due to bad copy quality and the fact the company didn't want to spend any money on it.

I was given a Toshiba 2820 which had come back with 'low copy count'

The feeder skewed and jammed intermittently, after stripping it down a small stone fell out. I reassembled it thinking I had fixed it....

Time being what it is and knowing my boss wouldn't want me spending a hour on this I swapped it for another 3018.

Some people would say a doc feeder is the same regardless of manufacturer..

[BLADE]

the canon clc 200 color pos

4 Bucks a copy way back then (about $15 now), even more for A3

[ExXeroid]

5065

AB dick K627 AKA Xerox 1065 5065 5365 cleaning blade for a photoreceptor belt WTF were they thinking!!!!!??? and a plastic type housing for fusing rollers that had oil sump resting in it that would eat away at the plastic and put potato chip grease like stains on the output jeesssh I think this was beginning of end Of Big X
Its Electrictoner

You forgot the center piece that the hoses for the fuser agent clamped onto. They used a power screw driver to mount those and more than 1/2 of those cracked, leaving a nice (Slippery) slick puddle of Fuser Agent under the machine. Those machines were where I learned that RMFD stood for Ruined My F--king Day.

[bernyb]

The 914 was the Xerox copier that came with a fire extinguisher. On the market in 1959. I had a territory of 110 of these.