Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

[ExXeroid]

I was trained on 1065 family and the 5046 which used a smaller version of that fuser. Fuser agent was stored in a bottle and circulated by AIR PRESSURE. In other words a puddle on the floor which turned said floor into an Ice Skating Ring. (Pump was introduced later, much to late)

[ExXeroid]

Only thing I know about the Igen is the toner cartridges are freaking HUGE. I left X in 05, when they were doing all the cutting. I couldn't take it anymore.

[ExXeroid]

Not really all X had the 1090 that wasn't digital that was 90 PPM. 5046 was 35 PPM. They were noisy as all hell.

[kingpd@businessprints.net]

Anything that used fuser lube, fuser oil or fuser agent. The old analog machine. Clamshells were bad but they didn't have the staplers or sorters we had on some mid volume over at X. X 5046 was the most unreliable and poorly designed machine I ever work on.

I just literally less than an hour ago watched a video on the Igen 4 and I swear they had a bottle of fuser oil under the fuser...apparently they're still using it on toner systems.

[kingpd@businessprints.net]

Come on guys,
as far as expense, time wasted, lack of field tech support, overall design,customer complaints,failure rates,
bad servers (T1)
AND they knew this before releasing the product
(what i am saying here is with all their experience on this business the still let this one out)

Canon C1

Aren't they really really slow too?

[ExXeroid]

Worse Copiers ever

Anything that used fuser lube, fuser oil or fuser agent. The old analog machine. Clamshells were bad but they didn't have the staplers or sorters we had on some mid volume over at X. X 5046 was the most unreliable and poorly designed machine I ever work on.

[Penvy]

Come on guys,
as far as expense, time wasted, lack of field tech support, overall design,customer complaints,failure rates,
bad servers (T1)
AND they knew this before releasing the product
(what i am saying here is with all their experience on this business the still let this one out)

Canon C1

[Copier Doc]

Worst for me were the copyprinters of the 1980's 1040 & the like.
Happy memories of changing ink screens & end up looking like a coal miner!!!!

[slybot]

the T/A 512RE was pretty well up there years ago, but nowadays dont get me started. the brand starts with x by memory and all of them

woops i stuffed up. the T/A was actually the T/A 215 which was the mita 512 (i think, we are talking close to 20 years ago and the memory aint that good) but agreed gerrard.fletcher, they were a daily nightmare

[Proton]

Since this was my favorite queston posted, I will bring it up again,
Which copier was the biggest peice of crap ever? :evil:

in my case is CS-PRO 5000 or some people known them as EP-5000
that machine is a living hell!
i spend more than half the price of the machine to buy new parts almost every month
but still.... a very heavy burden to make it run smooth...

[slybot]

Which copier was the biggest peice of crap ever

the T/A 512RE was pretty well up there years ago, but nowadays dont get me started. the brand starts with x by memory and all of them

Worst copier

Since this was my favorite queston posted, I will bring it up again,
Which copier was the biggest peice of crap ever? :evil:

The Mita 513 was a daily nightmare. You wouldn't expect that standard from any decent brand!

[Stirton.M]

I would have to say the Konica Minolta C10....what an utter piece of crap....just to replace the fuser, you have to take most of it apart...I mean panels, scanner unit off, a couple boards to get at a harness for that scanner, a second board to get at the plugin for the fuser AC, but not before removing a whole lotta other stuff just to get at that insignificant part....

I used to think highly of KM hardware...but this POS monstrocity...WTF were they thinking when they released this garbage to the end user?

[fallguy]

The Xerox 1050 comes to mind,anyone ever had to re-wired the optics and or the legal 2nd tray within the machine?
A pain it truly was.

[jma676]

lmfao...you should burn a copy and send it to xante.

Well, I have nothing to say against Xante! my only intention was to show the curious case!!
So as described in this thread.

These guys were determined to show what they seemed.