Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

[Vulkor]

Savin/Ricohs

Yeah I remember FX10's were ok unless customers thought they were for heavy usage, then DV would puke and fail consistently.

9034/9045 ok, I see some of you hate them.

the 2535/2545 or Ricoh 1035/1035 Are Total POS.
The upgrade the 4035/4045 were good as long as you followed the bulletins on the door switches and DV/PCU Seals.

Savin 8035E/Ricoh Aficio MP 3500
Savin 9040/ Ricoh Aficio MP 4000
Savin C2408 or C3210 & Ricoh Aficio 1224C

CAN BURN in HELL

The Savin C5050/Ricoh Aficio MP C5000 is quickly getting to be nasty. Color Bad straight from the Box. Ricoh tech wouldn't even admit it. But Customer and Us can see the color problem JUST on PRINTS. Now DV/Transfers that supposed to last for at least 120K getting replaced at 60K.

[bat]

Im sure that there is a lot of machines outhere that shouldent even get of the production line, but My favorites are Ricoh FT 6750 and Xerox 8830.

[rich bennett]

pigs

Since this was my favorite queston posted, I will bring it up again,
Which copier was the biggest peice of crap ever? :evil:

Does any soul out there remember the sharp 900,mid 80s machine,
absolute mare,the mirror return thudded into the home position at some rate of knots, every single copy, oh, and the metal chains drivin the fuser, lets not 4get them.
and theres more, dev spill into the transfer corona housing, sometimes , all the dev, its a doddle today!!!
rich....

[bvaldir]

Toner LTT

Anybody remember Toner LTT? For me all devices with liquid toner are true crap.
(Nashua, Ricoh, Savin)

[Deka]

Table top Minolta 350 or the liquid Savin

The Savin if you didnt know to empty before moving the liquid would spill out all over the floor and you making a huge mess! The Z350 table top minolta gave us fits from day one!

[Robert Sveinson]

Im sure that there is a lot of machines outhere that shouldent even get of the production line, but My favorites are Ricoh FT 6750 and Xerox 8830.

Hmmm!
I put in several years on the Xerox 8830/8825 machines
and I cannot remember any inherant problems.
I am not suggesting that there were no
miserable problems, just my memory!

They did not bring any misery to me.

Could you, would you, give some examples?
I still meet for lunch 3 techs who work on that family,
and they didn't grumble any more than
usual.
Maybe I can use some of your info to dazzle
my old friends.

Thanks
Robert

[leroyal]

Remember the sediment piles in the bottom of the tanks? Yeah Leroyal your right I really sort of gave away my age here's another on the Remington liquid which was a saxon but was marketed by a electric shaver company.... Go figure!

Har! One of the guys I worked with and I sat in his basement and attached toner pumps to the INTENSIFIER units to stir the shit up.

[Robert Sveinson]

Does anyone remember the old 3M thermal copiers that used pink onion skin paper layed over the thermal paper that ran at a top speed of 3 minutes per copy? Lets not foget the old Xerox 660 which started it all. God they made money on that machine. Back then no one could by a copier, you had to lease it directly from Xerox. It wasn't until their patents started running out at the 17yr mark,then the Jananese entered the market and the rest is history.

The XEROX 660 "desk top" copier was spawned by the XEROX
813! Thats a funny model number!
When it made a copy it was optically reduced, and could
not be made size for size.

The 813 was brown, took a long time to warm up, and when it did
warm up it sat there making all kinds of relay clacking.
This clacking sold more model 660s, because they were quiet.

The Cheshire division of Xerox took the basic model 660
and built a "com fiche" reader printer which
worked well using the correct fische, but would do nothing
if the fische were the light blue diazo copied fische.

Cheshire also took the basic 660 and developed a machine that
scanned cards that had names and addresses on them,
make a copy onto small sticky labels.
The card feeder could cause some grief if they weren't
treated carefully.

The rest of the 660s went to copier heaven! RIP!

[david1972]

I know this dates me some, but yes, I remember the old Xerox pink sheet machines very well. They were dying out when I got into copiers. Just like the Sharp 726, which was old by copier standards at the time, but we still had personal owners trickling in with these machines. I even stocked the sheets for a while, but at a dollar a page, it was a hard sell. You could get a copy at the local drug store for a quarter and by then the colleges were offering 10 cents a copy.
We had people coming in to the store to get the old Xerox pages recopied as they were fading, even though they were stored in files or otherwise protected from direct light.

Dave
www.davidlerickson.com

P.S. Been out of the office machine business for well over a year now and could not be happier. Still have friends in the biz, so stay in touch.

[Ctl-Alt-Del]

Mita Ai-3030

[olla86]

Ha!
Any of you guys ever worked on a Minolta EP710?
Hell has a special place for the design team of this pup. Hope they were put up against a wall and shot! How anything like this got on the market is incredible.

Right you are!!! I have some experience of working with M EP710

[Jenericg]

We\'re showing our age now - - - how about any copier with the name "KIP" before the model # ?!!! What about an old Minolta EG 301 - - - what about an old Saxon C-500 - - - what about the old Sharp 720/726 - - - ETC,ETC,ETC......

Ding Ding Ding..................... (Yes I know we are old)
Didn't even get to page 3
You forgot the Sharp 825

[Jenericg]

the savin if you didnt know to empty before moving the liquid would spill out all over the floor and you making a huge mess! The z350 table top minolta gave us fits from day one!

220,230, 750,755,770,780,880..........................

[Jenericg]

OMG Reading this is like old home week.

Brings back memories (bad Memories) but at least tells me I don't have dementia yet.

Copia III
Royfax
Olivetti 1000

[graymatter]

My worsts, FWIW

Sharp

SF900/901
SF760

( I kinda liked the 726 & 740, especially the PopTart cooker feature and the bamboo tongs)

Minolta

EP4230

Canon

NP155 moving platen monstrosity
NP2015
anything "imageCLASS"

Konica

8050

KonicaMinolta

C350
7145
420/500

Toshiba

3511
2500/3500
and really, Toshiba's entire service mode approach sucks. Wholly counterintuitive.