Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

[mascan42]

We all have known some better some worst, but one of the worst series I had experienced happened to be the first I ever worked on: Xerox 5034 and its following series: Because, instead of killing the design after they realised it was a looser, they tried to increase their CPM with the 5626,5830, 5334 and so on. That technology was based on a photo belt module that couldn't make its 10K good copies. Sometimes even at opening the box, the damned part was faulty. That is not a score for a 25-30 CPM. A plastic frame in a clamshel architecture the endusers were so happy to crack whenever they had enough with paper jam and poor copy quality. The firsts ones use to make a self adjustement of copy at each time you would turn the machine on. Tthat in fact was reducing background by increasing mainly voltage on exposure lamp, therefore ending by burning that thin photoreceptor film. Not talking about the quick wear of their "natural latex" feed rollers. Thanks its all over.

Same here. I started out on the 5028/5034 series. Xerox somehow got the idea in their heads that these things were real workhorses, but they were just complete shit. If the doc feeder hinges crack the plastic feeder frame on a regular basis, perhaps the designers haven't thought things out properly. After the 17th mandatory retrofit, shouldn't it have clicked that there's a fundamental problem here?

[Donn0144]

I started out working on the Savin Liquid machines. They worked fine until they came up with the Savin 9040/9050i. Now they are marketing the D009 as a 9040/9050. Can't imagine why all the trouble with the toner

[yormets]

The Sharp 7200 was a classic turd. It should never have been produced!

[vincent64]

The Sharp 7200 was a classic turd. It should never have been produced!

Was that the one with a master or did it have a regular drum, I think the w worst ones were the SF 7700 series and the SF 7800 series, and I still think the SF 2116 and any model that used the 216 drum and supplies, fuser jams in them things were awfull to get out.

[suffer_fly]

ricoh ft 6950, ft 6500....

[sparkin19]

Konica 8020 color copier would break everytime I looked at it wrong.

[robscopyr]

Today I am sure the worst ever is the first TaskAlfa series

[crm.84]

I have seen a Konicaminolta bizhub 420 but have never worked on one. It looks like the Konica engineers got in on the act and put the crap 7145 process area in but caved in and admitted that the minolta paper feed system was better. It had a weirdo bizhub 250/350 style fuser with a cleaning web. At least it has a minolta style panel rather than the steaming turn konica arrangement.

Kendall.

That's the same Minolta feed system that requires you to remove the by-pass unit in order to replace the pf tires on tray #2? Nice, real nice.

[Screw Turner]

Which copier was the biggest peice of crap ever?

I am aging myself with my choices... Savin 840 and anything using LANDA TONER!!!
FOREVER LEAKING CARPET DESTROYERS, HAND STAINING, HAND CRACKING, CLOTHES STAINING, KEROSENE FUMING PILES OF...

[mrwho]

Right now I'm even having nightmares at night with Ricoh's Aficio 2045! Piece of 5h!7!

[Screw Turner]

Right now I'm even having nightmares at night with Ricoh's Aficio 2045! Piece of 5h!7!

HaHaHa! I gave up on that bitch myself... clutches, polygon motors and lasers fail daily... 3035/45 is mucho better. Well it is just a little better...

[Fireball]

I've been out of the copier business for a while now. I remember most of these machines in this forum. ( I was a tech for much too long!) I'm really surprised that no one has mentioned the Toshiba 3503 (or was it 3507?). Sometimes, if you were lucky, you could make it back to the shop before they called again. Maybe no one else here goes back that far.

[YouthAttack]

toshiba color need i say more?
the sharp ar-m models are ok until you hit 400k then its a crapshot.
i havent been in the game long enough to work on any of the analog stuff but i heard they were nightmares too.

[morgansterne]

probably been mentioned before but the ricoh 180 / gestetner 3218 was so cheap. All in one toner/drum cartridge that you can't fix, only replace. fuser made entirely of plastic with self-tapping screws. I can't even count the number of times I had to superglue the screws in because the plastic would get all chewed up. The Ricoh 1224/1232 color is a royal pain, too -- incredibly messy oily fuser system with constant oil pump problems, giant PCU unit made of two belts that never made its life cycle, and always faint colors that never came close to matching the original.

[pioneer007]

E Studio 3511/4511

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