Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

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  • fallguy
    Technician
    • Sep 2010
    • 49

    #436
    The Xerox 1050 comes to mind,anyone ever had to re-wired the optics and or the legal 2nd tray within the machine?
    A pain it truly was.

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    • Stirton.M
      All things Konica Minolta

      1,000+ Posts
      • Oct 2009
      • 1804

      #437
      I would have to say the Konica Minolta C10....what an utter piece of crap....just to replace the fuser, you have to take most of it apart...I mean panels, scanner unit off, a couple boards to get at a harness for that scanner, a second board to get at the plugin for the fuser AC, but not before removing a whole lotta other stuff just to get at that insignificant part....

      I used to think highly of KM hardware...but this POS monstrocity...WTF were they thinking when they released this garbage to the end user?
      "Many years ago I chased a woman for almost two years, only to discover that her tastes were exactly like mine: we both were crazy about girls."
      ---Groucho Marx


      Please do not PM me for questions related to Konica Minolta hardware.
      I will not answer requests or questions there.
      Please ask in the KM forum for the benefit of others to see the question and give their input.

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      • gerrard.fletcher

        #438
        Worst copier

        Originally posted by Aneurysm
        Since this was my favorite queston posted, I will bring it up again,
        Which copier was the biggest peice of crap ever? :evil:
        The Mita 513 was a daily nightmare. You wouldn't expect that standard from any decent brand!

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        • slybot
          Trusted Tech

          100+ Posts
          • Sep 2010
          • 165

          #439
          Which copier was the biggest peice of crap ever

          the T/A 512RE was pretty well up there years ago, but nowadays dont get me started. the brand starts with x by memory and all of them

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          • Proton
            Technician
            • Oct 2010
            • 10

            #440
            Originally posted by Aneurysm
            Since this was my favorite queston posted, I will bring it up again,
            Which copier was the biggest peice of crap ever? :evil:
            in my case is CS-PRO 5000 or some people known them as EP-5000
            that machine is a living hell!
            i spend more than half the price of the machine to buy new parts almost every month
            but still.... a very heavy burden to make it run smooth...

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            • slybot
              Trusted Tech

              100+ Posts
              • Sep 2010
              • 165

              #441
              Originally posted by slybot
              the T/A 512RE was pretty well up there years ago, but nowadays dont get me started. the brand starts with x by memory and all of them
              woops i stuffed up. the T/A was actually the T/A 215 which was the mita 512 (i think, we are talking close to 20 years ago and the memory aint that good) but agreed gerrard.fletcher, they were a daily nightmare

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              • Copier Doc
                Technician
                • Mar 2010
                • 49

                #442
                Worst for me were the copyprinters of the 1980's 1040 & the like.
                Happy memories of changing ink screens & end up looking like a coal miner!!!!

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                • Penvy
                  Trusted Tech

                  100+ Posts
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 237

                  #443
                  Come on guys,
                  as far as expense, time wasted, lack of field tech support, overall design,customer complaints,failure rates,
                  bad servers (T1)
                  AND they knew this before releasing the product
                  (what i am saying here is with all their experience on this business the still let this one out)

                  Canon C1

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                  • ExXeroid
                    Technician

                    50+ Posts
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 56

                    #444
                    Worse Copiers ever

                    Anything that used fuser lube, fuser oil or fuser agent. The old analog machine. Clamshells were bad but they didn't have the staplers or sorters we had on some mid volume over at X. X 5046 was the most unreliable and poorly designed machine I ever work on.

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                    • kingpd@businessprints.net
                      Senior Tech

                      500+ Posts
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 919

                      #445
                      Originally posted by Penvy
                      Come on guys,
                      as far as expense, time wasted, lack of field tech support, overall design,customer complaints,failure rates,
                      bad servers (T1)
                      AND they knew this before releasing the product
                      (what i am saying here is with all their experience on this business the still let this one out)

                      Canon C1
                      Aren't they really really slow too?

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                      • kingpd@businessprints.net
                        Senior Tech

                        500+ Posts
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 919

                        #446
                        Originally posted by ExXeroid
                        Anything that used fuser lube, fuser oil or fuser agent. The old analog machine. Clamshells were bad but they didn't have the staplers or sorters we had on some mid volume over at X. X 5046 was the most unreliable and poorly designed machine I ever work on.
                        I just literally less than an hour ago watched a video on the Igen 4 and I swear they had a bottle of fuser oil under the fuser...apparently they're still using it on toner systems.

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                        • ExXeroid
                          Technician

                          50+ Posts
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 56

                          #447
                          Not really all X had the 1090 that wasn't digital that was 90 PPM. 5046 was 35 PPM. They were noisy as all hell.

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                          • ExXeroid
                            Technician

                            50+ Posts
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 56

                            #448
                            Only thing I know about the Igen is the toner cartridges are freaking HUGE. I left X in 05, when they were doing all the cutting. I couldn't take it anymore.

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                            • ExXeroid
                              Technician

                              50+ Posts
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 56

                              #449
                              I was trained on 1065 family and the 5046 which used a smaller version of that fuser. Fuser agent was stored in a bottle and circulated by AIR PRESSURE. In other words a puddle on the floor which turned said floor into an Ice Skating Ring. (Pump was introduced later, much to late)

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                              • kingpd@businessprints.net
                                Senior Tech

                                500+ Posts
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 919

                                #450
                                Originally posted by ExXeroid
                                Not really all X had the 1090 that wasn't digital that was 90 PPM. 5046 was 35 PPM. They were noisy as all hell.
                                The 1090 was the first Xerox I ever used. I used to love using that thing, especially since I never had to fix copiers back then.

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