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  • copier tech
    Field Supervisor

    5,000+ Posts
    • Jan 2014
    • 8127

    #16
    Re: C258 Change Drum Units message with 30% life remaining

    Originally posted by looper
    I printed the consumables list before leaving, hope it's the right one.

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]44716[/ATTACH]
    your TOTAL counter is ZERO AND Serial number are missing from this print out!?

    Looking at all these issues I would try updating the firmware looks like the machine is somehow become corrupted.

    k7.jpg
    Last edited by copier tech; 01-23-2020, 10:58 PM.
    Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

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    • srvctec
      Former KM Senior Tech

      500+ Posts
      • Oct 2009
      • 827

      #17
      Re: C258 Change Drum Units message with 30% life remaining

      Originally posted by looper
      Thank you.

      I hope my tehnician will know what to do and be available, we already lost 3 days to this issue and is getting hard to get things done in the office without a color printer.

      I would've liked to solve it myself during this weekend and have it ready to work on Monday morning.

      When doing a firmware update, does the machine preserve the settings, user accounts and all that?

      Is there any way I can get my hands on the required firmware?, I can't find a link for it on the Konica support page.
      You can't find the F/W because it's ONLY for authorized, TRAINED service technicians to install. PERIOD.
      Started in the copier service business in the fall of 1988 and worked at the same company for 33.5 years, becoming the senior tech in 2004 but left to pursue another career on 4/29/22.

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      • looper
        End-User

        Site Contributor
        • Jan 2020
        • 29

        #18
        Re: C258 Change Drum Units message with 30% life remaining

        @copier tech: No, I only changed the K drum unit yesterday and last week, the WTB, all of them being oem parts.

        @srvctec: I meant no disrespect, I didn't really know how close Konica keeps its firmware, but isn't this the purpose of a tech forum, to help those in need, so others can know what to do when push comes to tech!?

        I'll wait for the tehnician then to see what he can do, but I have my reservations, being that his only solution was to power cycle the unit.

        I appreciate you guys taking the time to help and provide some insight, I always like to try and solve things by myself, but I also know when to give up and call for help (this is what I'm doing here).

        Thanks for everything and I'll keep you posted after my tehnician comes.

        P.S. If anyone is willing to share, I'll be available non stop for testing the unit right away.

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        • looper
          End-User

          Site Contributor
          • Jan 2020
          • 29

          #19
          Re: C258 Change Drum Units message with 30% life remaining

          Hello again,

          The technician keeps delaying me from one day to another, because as i suspected, he doesn't know what to do to it, so right now i don't know what to do anymore.

          Please help me find a way to fix it, i refuse to think that this is its end, i'm next to it, available to try anything!

          Thank you.

          k8.jpg

          P.S. It doesn't even print black/white, just displays a small message "Stop Printing".

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          • Bix
            Service Manager

            1,000+ Posts
            • Apr 2018
            • 1421

            #20
            Re: C258 Change Drum Units message with 30% life remaining

            An idea would be:
            1. disable the drum replacement alerts.
            2. disable block C258 when the drums end (valid only if there are no alerts).
            3. Instead of buying other drums, you could try buying the chips and replacing them

            If your place is Rome, I found this for Italy: https://www.ebay.it/itm/MINOLTA-BIZHUB-C-258-N-4-CHIP-RESET-TAMBURO-DRUM-KIT-C-M-Y-K-DR313-COD-19304/182513718546

            The chip is located under the drum. Or from china: https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-x-Drum-Chip-Minolta-Bizhub-C224-C364-C284-C454-C554-C258-C368-C287-C367-C227/173433779726

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            • copier tech
              Field Supervisor

              5,000+ Posts
              • Jan 2014
              • 8127

              #21
              Re: C258 Change Drum Units message with 30% life remaining

              Originally posted by looper
              Hello again,

              The technician keeps delaying me from one day to another, because as i suspected, he doesn't know what to do to it, so right now i don't know what to do anymore.

              Please help me find a way to fix it, i refuse to think that this is its end, i'm next to it, available to try anything!

              Thank you.

              [ATTACH=CONFIG]44755[/ATTACH]

              P.S. It doesn't even print black/white, just displays a small message "Stop Printing".
              This is a simple fix from CE mode you can disable this warning & enable colour printing.

              This is explained in the service manual.
              Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

              For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

              www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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              • looper
                End-User

                Site Contributor
                • Jan 2020
                • 29

                #22
                Re: C258 Change Drum Units message with 30% life remaining

                I tried to disable the error from Service Mode, but it still doesn't print, just displays "Stop Printing".

                Only thing it prints, its the consumables list.

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                • copier tech
                  Field Supervisor

                  5,000+ Posts
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 8127

                  #23
                  Re: C258 Change Drum Units message with 30% life remaining

                  Originally posted by looper
                  I tried to disable the error from Service Mode, but it still doesn't print, just displays "Stop Printing".

                  Only thing it prints, its the consumables list.
                  What exactly did you do in CE mode?

                  You need to change the life stop settings.
                  Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                  For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                  www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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                  • looper
                    End-User

                    Site Contributor
                    • Jan 2020
                    • 29

                    #24
                    Re: C258 Change Drum Units message with 30% life remaining

                    I used the EnhancedSecurity menu to turn off all Life Stop options.

                    The technician finally arrived, did a factory reset and left, without testing the printing function. Now i'm redoing all the Acct. Track settings and will test it asap.

                    A new message is now being displayed "No animation guide available, contact your technician" or something like that and the left orange led keeps blinking, he said is no problem and left...

                    I'll finish the settings and let you know how it goes.

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                    • tsbservice
                      Field tech

                      Site Contributor
                      5,000+ Posts
                      • May 2007
                      • 7950

                      #25
                      Re: C258 Change Drum Units message with 30% life remaining

                      Originally posted by looper
                      I used the EnhancedSecurity menu to turn off all Life Stop options.

                      The technician finally arrived, did a factory reset and left, without testing the printing function. Now i'm redoing all the Acct. Track settings and will test it asap.

                      A new message is now being displayed "No animation guide available, contact your technician" or something like that and the left orange led keeps blinking, he said is no problem and left...

                      I'll finish the settings and let you know how it goes.
                      You need to install Movie data but that's not fatal machine should work.
                      A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
                      Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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                      • Synthohol
                        Certified Konica Expert

                        Site Contributor
                        5,000+ Posts
                        • Mar 2016
                        • 5777

                        #26
                        Re: C258 Change Drum Units message with 30% life remaining

                        Originally posted by looper

                        The technician finally arrived, did a factory reset and left, without testing the printing function. Now i'm redoing all the Acct. Track settings and will test it asap.

                        A new message is now being displayed "No animation guide available, contact your technician" or something like that and the left orange led keeps blinking, he said is no problem and left...
                        You didn't pay this clown did you?
                        That's horseshit.
                        We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                        The medication helps though...

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                        • Phil B.
                          Field Supervisor

                          10,000+ Posts
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 22798

                          #27
                          Re: C258 Change Drum Units message with 30% life remaining

                          Originally posted by Synthohol
                          You didn't pay this clown did you?
                          That's horseshit.
                          +1

                          I'd be up his bosses caboose until I had a competent tech out there and TOTALLY fixed and tested each function!

                          and if no resolve there, document everything and report dealership to KM corp. see how faast they get it fixed then!

                          I might ding their BBB rating if they were pissy to me .

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                          • looper
                            End-User

                            Site Contributor
                            • Jan 2020
                            • 29

                            #28
                            Re: C258 Change Drum Units message with 30% life remaining

                            Oh yeah, I paid him for his "intervention"... because i thought this will finally fix it and wanted to get it done, but no such luck.

                            Now i can scan to smb and color copies, so something is working, but the most important part, the printing, this is still dead with the same symptoms (print job sent from Windows, but doesn't reach the printer, it doesn't even show in the printer's Job list, no signs of life.)

                            This is the firmware info, got it from the web page, which works great.

                            MFP Card Version A7PU0Y0-F000-G00-S1
                            MFP Controller BOOT Program A7PU0Y0-1E00-G00-06
                            MFP Controller Linux Base Linux-3.10.40
                            MFP Controller Kernel Program A7PU0Y0-1C00-G00-D2
                            MFP Controller SubSet A7PU0Y0-1F00-G00-R1
                            MFP Controller A7PU0Y0-0100-G00-S1
                            MFP Controller System A7PU0Y0-1000-G00-S1
                            MFP Controller Print Controller
                            MFP Controller Print Controller Font
                            MFP Controller Print Controller Demo Page A7PU0Y0-3E00-G00-00
                            Image Reader Controller A7PU0Y0-8600-G00-D1
                            MFP Controller MIO A7PU0Y0-5000-G02-B7
                            Operation Panel Message Data A7PU0Y0-8100-G00-R4
                            MFP Controller PIC A7PU0Y0-8200-G00-F0
                            MFP Controller PIC Image Parameter A7PU0Y0-8A01-G00-02
                            MFP Controller Thread Image Parameter A7PU0Y0-8B01-G00-03
                            MFP Controller IR Image Parameter A7PU0Y0-8C01-G00-15
                            Finisher
                            Machine Controller A7PU0Y0-0200-G00-36
                            Machine Controller BOOT A7PU0Y0-0210-G00-01
                            Machine Controller Printer A7PU0Y0-0220-G00-31
                            Machine Controller Media A7PU0Y0-0230-G00-03
                            Machine Controller IO A7PU0Y0-0240-G00-00
                            Machine Controller Scanner A7PU0Y0-0300-G00-08
                            ADF A87R0Y0-0024-G00-35
                            Fax Board Controller1
                            Fax Board Controller2
                            Fax Board Controller3
                            Fax Board Controller4
                            SD
                            DSC1
                            DSC2
                            Panel CPU A7PU0Y0-8900-G30-04
                            SCB A7AH0Y0-1A00-G00-05
                            Power Sub-CPU A7AH0Y0-1900-G00-81
                            SATA Controller A7AH0Y0-6403-G00-04
                            Integrated Printer Driver Version 5-4.1b-0-G00-11
                            Movie Data
                            Voice Data
                            Dictionary Data
                            OCR Library
                            Authentication Customize Data
                            Panel Sound Data A7PU0Y0-C200-G00-00
                            Loadable Device Driver1
                            Loadable Device Driver2

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                            • Synthohol
                              Certified Konica Expert

                              Site Contributor
                              5,000+ Posts
                              • Mar 2016
                              • 5777

                              #29
                              Re: C258 Change Drum Units message with 30% life remaining

                              Do you have a fiery print controller attached to the machine?
                              We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                              The medication helps though...

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                              • Bix
                                Service Manager

                                1,000+ Posts
                                • Apr 2018
                                • 1421

                                #30
                                Re: C258 Change Drum Units message with 30% life remaining

                                Ma a parte la stampa da PC, ora puoi usare la stampante come copiatrice?

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