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  • blackcat4866
    Master Of The Obvious

    Site Contributor
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    • Jul 2007
    • 23008

    #61
    Re: C452 Dumpster to the Rescu(r)e!?!

    Imaging units are best kept in black plastic bags, then in a box ... trash bags will do in, in a pinch. They have to stay dark.

    You'll find the laser unit underneath the imaging units. It's a black plastic box ~35cm deep by 8cm high by 66cm long. It exits the machine from the left side cover. Be cautious with the ribbon cable: it's easy to damage the cables or connectors.

    The feed units reside above and to the right of each paper tray. You'll recognize the three roller combination.
    =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    • subalot
      Technician
      • Sep 2020
      • 39

      #62
      Re: C452 Dumpster to the Rescu(r)e!?!

      Originally posted by copytechman
      If you're swapping the fiery onto the other device you will need stuff from inside the donor machine (video interface card, cables/brackets etc) and settings in service mode etc. Best to acquire the installation manual if you can for the VI card / Fiery (it'll be called an IC something or other (I don't have the manual handy) , honestly easier unless you have need of the fiery just to use the built in controller for printing but kudos to you sir for all of your efforts!

      Regards.
      A.
      Greetings copytechman:-)

      could you please be so kind and have a lookFiery2.jpgFiery.jpg

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      • subalot
        Technician
        • Sep 2020
        • 39

        #63
        Re: C452 Dumpster to the Rescu(r)e!?!

        Originally posted by blackcat4866
        Imaging units are best kept in black plastic bags, then in a box ... trash bags will do in, in a pinch. They have to stay dark.

        You'll find the laser unit underneath the imaging units. It's a black plastic box ~35cm deep by 8cm high by 66cm long. It exits the machine from the left side cover. Be cautious with the ribbon cable: it's easy to damage the cables or connectors.

        The feed units reside above and to the right of each paper tray. You'll recognize the three roller combination.
        =^..^=
        Dropbox - SKMBT_C45221111311060.pdf - Simplify your life
        ANSI B pages will follow as soon as i have the thyme, now preparing to help a buddy with with laptop from 2012, its a sony machine and has to be set up properly coz sony said "F u guys" no drivers for your legacy products anymore...



        have a very nice day over there blackcat4866

        god bless
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        • subalot
          Technician
          • Sep 2020
          • 39

          #64
          Re: C452 Dumpster to the Rescu(r)e!?!

          Fiery???? Not so fast young padawan....

          i might just found out why the donor-machine quit service mid-printing the guy said....can you spot wally

          Fiery4.jpgfiery3.jpg

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          • copytechman
            Senior Tech

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            • Nov 2008
            • 943

            #65
            Re: C452 Dumpster to the Rescu(r)e!?!

            Originally posted by subalot
            Greetings copytechman:-)

            could you please be so kind and have a look[ATTACH=CONFIG]50788[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]50789[/ATTACH]
            Not really , looks like u have the internal card and the funky cable that goes from that card to fiery , sounds like you have the correct setup guide as long as it mentions how to install said card and settings in service mode (been awhile but has something to do with controller type). You can in fact boot the fiery on its own and see if it makes it to 00 on the lcd display, Thats "usually" an indication that all is well but there are of course exceptions to everything lol. Iirc that fiery mounted just inside the device Lower casing, you did grab the Fierys mounting brackets as well I hope!

            Good luck on yer journey and your test pages look way better, if you have the serv manual, run gradation adj from in there, it just looks out of Adj now and that "should" snap it back to center.

            Regards!
            A.

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            • subalot
              Technician
              • Sep 2020
              • 39

              #66
              Re: C452 Dumpster to the Rescu(r)e!?!

              Originally posted by copytechman
              Not really , looks like u have the internal card and the funky cable that goes from that card to fiery , sounds like you have the correct setup guide as long as it mentions how to install said card and settings in service mode (been awhile but has something to do with controller type). You can in fact boot the fiery on its own and see if it makes it to 00 on the lcd display, Thats "usually" an indication that all is well but there are of course exceptions to everything lol. Iirc that fiery mounted just inside the device Lower casing, you did grab the Fierys mounting brackets as well I hope!


              Good luck on yer journey and your test pages look way better, if you have the serv manual, run gradation adj from in there, it just looks out of Adj now and that "should" snap it back to center.

              Regards!
              A.
              BHC452 "The color is off, I wanted a different shade of purple", she said.

              IC 412 Fiery Controller Bizhub C452 Shows Please wait / no ping


              your advice has been taken care of partly, please find here the new test page after the gradation adjustment. i just could not be bothered to read in the manual tbh. tho-because excitement
              Dropbox - SKMBT_C45221111419330.pdf - Simplify your life
              have a blessed day over there copytechman
              Last edited by subalot; 11-14-2021, 07:44 PM. Reason: coz u know spellin aint that eezzyyy määhnn...linxx added

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              • Synthohol
                Certified Konica Expert

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                • Mar 2016
                • 5824

                #67
                Re: C452 Dumpster to the Rescu(r)e!?!

                you dont need the Fiery to print.
                in service mode system 2 change controller details to controller 0 so the fiery wont be needed to print.
                we can flash system software to the fiery later if need be.
                We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                The medication helps though...

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                • copytechman
                  Senior Tech

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                  500+ Posts
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 943

                  #68
                  Re: C452 Dumpster to the Rescu(r)e!?!

                  Originally posted by subalot
                  BHC452 "The color is off, I wanted a different shade of purple", she said.

                  IC 412 Fiery Controller Bizhub C452 Shows Please wait / no ping


                  your advice has been taken care of partly, please find here the new test page after the gradation adjustment. i just could not be bothered to read in the manual tbh. tho-because excitement
                  Dropbox - SKMBT_C45221111419330.pdf - Simplify your life
                  have a blessed day over there copytechman
                  Looks like night and day and yeah synth is correct, the fiery is not implicitly needed to print with model if you don't want to or run into complications with the fiery! If you're lucky it's default admin pw will the the usual one. If not, might need to reload system to reset it to factory but don't quote me on that.

                  Good work!
                  Regards!
                  A.

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                  • subalot
                    Technician
                    • Sep 2020
                    • 39

                    #69
                    Re: C452 Dumpster to the Rescu(r)e!?!

                    Originally posted by Synthohol
                    you dont need the Fiery to print.
                    in service mode system 2 change controller details to controller 0 so the fiery wont be needed to print.
                    we can flash system software to the fiery later if need be.

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                    • copytechman
                      Senior Tech

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                      • Nov 2008
                      • 943

                      #70
                      Re: C452 Dumpster to the Rescu(r)e!?!

                      Regards.
                      A.

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                      • blackcat4866
                        Master Of The Obvious

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                        10,000+ Posts
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 23008

                        #71
                        Re: C452 Dumpster to the Rescu(r)e!?!

                        You won't be able to recover anything from that extra hard drive.

                        I would follow through on that FTP link, to get that animation data. You do not actually need that animation data to use the machine.

                        And ... you will not be successfully installing the extra drive on you machine. It won't be able to read it. =^..^=
                        If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                        1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                        2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                        3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                        4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                        5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                        blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                        • subalot
                          Technician
                          • Sep 2020
                          • 39

                          #72
                          Owner of the Donor

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                          • subalot
                            Technician
                            • Sep 2020
                            • 39

                            #73
                            Re: C452 Dumpster to the Rescu(r)e!?!

                            Originally posted by blackcat4866
                            You won't be able to recover anything from that extra hard drive.

                            I would follow through on that FTP link, to get that animation data. You do not actually need that animation data to use the machine.

                            And ... you will not be successfully installing the extra drive on you machine. It won't be able to read it. =^..^=

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                            • copytechman
                              Senior Tech

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                              • Nov 2008
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                              #74
                              Re: C452 Dumpster to the Rescu(r)e!?!

                              Originally posted by subalot
                              Owner of the Donor
                              Regards!

                              A.

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                              • allan
                                RTFM!!

                                5,000+ Posts
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 5462

                                #75
                                Re: C452 Dumpster to the Rescu(r)e!?!

                                If you get that fiery to run it makes for a nice server. Will take windows, linux...
                                Turned one into an Apple TV and another into a XBMC/CODI box. The fan is a bit loud.
                                As for using it on the machine its pointless without the right calibration tools and not worth the effort in my opinion.

                                For the fuser you do get good rebuild kits, if you can rebuild that you can rebuild any unit.
                                Whatever

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