C554 & C558 fuser cleaning rollers

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  • copyman
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    • Sep 2005
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    #1

    C554 & C558 fuser cleaning rollers

    I've read on this forum about leaving the cleaning rollers out of the C554-C754 fuser unit and still works well. Does this also apply to the 8 series fusers? There are no aftermarket cleaning rollers for the 8 series and they are expensive! Looks like the 8 series has a new style cleaning roller setup which I guess is to prevent the squeaking noise that was very common in the 4 series.
  • Synthohol
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    • Mar 2016
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    #2
    the ones with the white square "button" are evil.
    that whole mechanism is rude.
    i scrape off any hard crap from the roller and lightly wipe fuser oil on it.
    then run paper through it by hand until no oil stains and warranty/order another fuser. this one has a 10% chance of making it through a case of paper.
    thats all i could do. i tried removing the roller once and it just codes.
    lol, or i just suck and retired at the right time hehe.
    We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
    The medication helps though...

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    • copyman
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      #3
      Originally posted by Synthohol
      the ones with the white square "button" are evil.
      that whole mechanism is rude.
      i scrape off any hard crap from the roller and lightly wipe fuser oil on it.
      then run paper through it by hand until no oil stains and warranty/order another fuser. this one has a 10% chance of making it through a case of paper.
      thats all i could do. i tried removing the roller once and it just codes.
      lol, or i just suck and retired at the right time hehe.
      So just to be clear, the rollers cannot be removed from the "8" series or machine will code?

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      • Synthohol
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        #4
        YMMV but i never had any luck because the shaft on the oil roller has gears for that stupid contraption.

        you can replace it though on the 658e at least.
        A79J740401 Cleaning Roller
        We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
        The medication helps though...

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        • adecanmin
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          • Oct 2010
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          #5
          Originally posted by copyman

          So just to be clear, the rollers cannot be removed from the "8" series or machine will code?
          I took mine off a c558 fuser. The gears were making noise like a washing machine. No codes. Nice and quiet. I was concerned the fuser might have some quality issues without the cleaning roller. So far no ill effects.

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          • Ziggy
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            • Feb 2018
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            #6
            I remove them from 8 series when they start making noise. Never had a problem and the fuser goes well past expected life settings

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            • Synthohol
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              #7
              Glad you guys had luck. After the 3rd one I ruined i just lubed and replaced. From then on.
              We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
              The medication helps though...

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              • copyman
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                #8
                Originally posted by adecanmin

                I took mine off a c558 fuser. The gears were making noise like a washing machine. No codes. Nice and quiet. I was concerned the fuser might have some quality issues without the cleaning roller. So far no ill effects.
                Good to know it wont throw any codes if removed. Thanks

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                • Ziggy
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                  • Feb 2018
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                  #9
                  When removing cleaning roller I also remove brackets that oil roller rides in and the springs that hook to the brackets

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