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  • Tech09
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    • Apr 2020
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    New machines damaged in box

    Has anyone else been receiving a high number of machines damaged in the box but the box looks fine? We've had a lot sent to us this last year that once we unbox them we're finding bent frames, obvious forklift dents and broken optics. Of course if the box looks damaged when we receive it we won't sign off on it until we open and inspect, but these machines the shipping boxes don't appear damaged at all. It's like the machine is damaged before it gets packaged and they know it's damaged but don't give a rats ass.
  • Markks
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    • Feb 2018
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    #2
    yeah KM quality control has went downhill real fast

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    • elmaligno
      Expert technician KM

      250+ Posts
      • Oct 2009
      • 250

      #3
      Yes...look at my avatar....
      Field technician since 1994

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      • tsbservice
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        • May 2007
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        #4
        I would rather trust my wife who's quality assurance in IT projects than KM quality control
        But nothing can beat bad design 😔
        So we had already A4 0i series toasting CPU boards and with what they come in all "new" 1i A3 models?!
        Yepp a couple of fans less...hmm who can guess the results?
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        • Albonline
          Service Manager

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          • Sep 2008
          • 1098

          #5
          i called them a bonus .Parts paid for by the sales department. wire for scrap metal also. not to mention a free government type copiers for home use.

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          • tsbservice
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            • May 2007
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            #6
            Originally posted by Albonline
            i called them a bonus .Parts paid for by the sales department. wire for scrap metal also. not to mention a free government type copiers for home use.
            Ha-ha, you are old cynic... but I like your thinking.
            A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
            Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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            • JasonSBE
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              • Apr 2014
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              #7
              We have noticed that a lot of A4 machines(c3320i, c3350i, etc.) come in with damaged panels and feeders. For a period of time around when there were a shortage of crane workers, there was a dramatic increase, but it's still been a problem. Can't speak too much on the larger A3 consoles.

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              • Duplicator
                IT Manager

                100+ Posts
                • May 2022
                • 142

                #8
                Originally posted by Tech09
                Has anyone else been receiving a high number of machines damaged in the box but the box looks fine? We've had a lot sent to us this last year that once we unbox them we're finding bent frames, obvious forklift dents and broken optics. Of course if the box looks damaged when we receive it we won't sign off on it until we open and inspect, but these machines the shipping boxes don't appear damaged at all. It's like the machine is damaged before it gets packaged and they know it's damaged but don't give a rats ass.
                Yes, absolutely. It's extremely frustrating. We find that if Konica doesn't package a damaged machine, the shipper will run a fork through it for us just in case.
                Worked in IT for 12 years from Helpdesk up to System Administrator. Now working as the IT Manager at a copier company for the last 4 years.

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                • onlyinnewfoundland
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                  • Apr 2013
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                  #9
                  lol we just unboxed a brand new C3321i, box was immaculate.

                  the machine is fubar'd - from what I can tell it has two non-OEM image units installed. Iron filings, toner everywhere. Lasers completely covered.

                  It even had all the oem tape and those little pull tab covers on the image units like you would expect it to.

                  KM having some serious issues - the amount of electronics failing in their stuff out of box, or like 2 weeks after install is insane. I feel like we have a 50% fail rate on CPU boards at this point.

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                  • jotunn
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                    500+ Posts
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 526

                    #10
                    Originally posted by onlyinnewfoundland
                    from what I can tell it has two non-OEM image units installed
                    Why do you think so? Because of different drum colors - mixed green and olive-green? That's perfectly normal.

                    And about "Iron filings, toner everywhere. Lasers completely covered." - some time ago, among the ten ordered C3320i, there were three with the same problem - they were returned as DoA.
                    Most probably something went wrong on production line - during the initial setup.

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                    • kingarthur
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                      • Feb 2008
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by jotunn

                      Why do you think so? Because of different drum colors - mixed green and olive-green? That's perfectly normal.

                      And about "Iron filings, toner everywhere. Lasers completely covered." - some time ago, among the ten ordered C3320i, there were three with the same problem - they were returned as DoA.
                      Most probably something went wrong on production line - during the initial setup.
                      Yes - the good old "Friday afternoon machines"....seen a few of those
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