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  • copyman
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    • Sep 2005
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    #1

    Legacy models

    I found these old brochures in a box of old parts going into dumpster. Now I will have nightmares about the EP4301, one of the worse copier ever made by "Minolta" (before the Konica merge).
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  • Hansoon
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    • Sep 2007
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    #2
    For me, it was the EP-4230 being the worst Minolta copier.

    Hans
    “Sent from my Intel 80286 using MS-DOS 2.0”

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    • copyman
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      #3
      Originally posted by Hansoon
      For me, it was the EP-4230 being the worst Minolta copier.

      Hans
      Ha-ha. Yes the 4230 was another one I had a bad relationship with. In all fairness, most, if not all copiers of that era had their issues. I edited my OP to "one of the worst". Still have legacy Konica as my worse OEM ever, 1290, etc. Then the merge with Konica and they brought their crap with them, one being the Di-5510 footprint that later became the biz 600/601, another Konica flop. Still baffles me that an OEM would think you could recycle waste toner on a 50/75 ppm models and not crash the developer with paper dust, etc. Poor design they stuck with for over 10 yrs.......

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      • ThisPete
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        • Jun 2014
        • 162

        #4
        EP-370Z anyone?...

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        • tsbservice
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          • May 2007
          • 7968

          #5
          Hansoon Dude your signature is ridiculous and doesn't lead anywhere.

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          • Hansoon
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            #6
            Hansoon Dude your signature is ridiculous and doesn't lead anywhere.

            “ Sent from my Intel 80286 using MS-DOS 2.0

            YES!!

            And that's why the quotation marks 😁

            Find it more funny than the stupid:
            “Send from my superduper — latest and greatest — HopSing XYZ” 😎

            Hans
            “Sent from my Intel 80286 using MS-DOS 2.0”

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            • larweedad
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              • Jan 2010
              • 91

              #7
              You guys are bringing back scary stories from those models.

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              • adecanmin
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                • Oct 2010
                • 291

                #8
                EP510

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                • Synthohol
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                  • Mar 2016
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                  #9
                  i had one of those old ones where the whole platen moved side to side, didnt like it.
                  also any machine the clamshell piston was useless.

                  fax 2600 and 3600 can really be the worst.
                  We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                  The medication helps though...

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                  • copyman
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Synthohol
                    i had one of those old ones where the whole platen moved side to side, didnt like it.
                    also any machine the clamshell piston was useless.

                    fax 2600 and 3600 can really be the worst.
                    Oh yeah the clam shell design, don't think there was a machine where the gas shocks didn't fail. This includes all OEM's. They use to say you weren't really a tech until the top half of machine fell on your hand. They were about as useless as the hatchback shocks on a Ford Pinto!

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                    • Synthohol
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                      • Mar 2016
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                      #11
                      its what vice grips were also made for.
                      We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                      The medication helps though...

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                      • ThisPete
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                        • Jun 2014
                        • 162

                        #12
                        Originally posted by copyman

                        Oh yeah the clam shell design, don't think there was a machine where the gas shocks didn't fail. This includes all OEM's. They use to say you weren't really a tech until the top half of machine fell on your hand. They were about as useless as the hatchback shocks on a Ford Pinto!
                        The three stitches to my left hand thumb knuckle that I had in the late nineties totally agree with with that last statement!

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                        • Albonline
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                          • Sep 2008
                          • 1144

                          #13
                          worst royal to work on was the 110, closely followed by the 145. 145 would kill my digital watches if i wore them behind to set currents.

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