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  • Hansoon
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    • Sep 2007
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    BH-C-284e, dropping of the network

    BH-C-284e was working very well after rebuild and testing in my workshop but now at the customers place it sometimes - after days, is dropping from the network and is coming back when the patch cable is taken out and put back again. Cable is already replaced once. Should I play with network speed?

    Any ideas please?

    Hans
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  • Synthohol
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    Re: BH-C-284e, dropping of the network

    yes, try 100tx full duplex.
    We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
    The medication helps though...

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    • blackcat4866
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      Re: BH-C-284e, dropping of the network

      Also check for power disturbances or duplicate IP addresses. =^..^=
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      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

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      • Hansoon
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        Re: BH-C-284e, dropping of the network

        Thanks, I checked for duplicate IP Addresses from the beginning. What worries me is that when this happens the little control indicator on the TCP/IP port do not light up. Fiddling with the patch cable an/or switching the machine off and on restores everything to normal. The machine has a fixed IP Address outside of the DHCP range of the router.

        If I have to replace the MFPB with one from a loaner, is there a special procedure to take care of? Or just replacing the board with use of the original SSDB and hard drive would do?

        Hans
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        • Synthohol
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          Re: BH-C-284e, dropping of the network

          If their network switch does auto-negotiation for network speed the copier does the same thing and they cancel eachother out and the switch drops the connection.
          Seen it happen a bunch of times.
          What you can do is set the speed to 100tx full duplex and have another computer get to a dos prompt and ping it -t ie: ping 192.168.1.x -t
          That will continually ping the copier and will show if and when the connection drops as you will get a no reply response.
          We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
          The medication helps though...

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          • tsbservice
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            • May 2007
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            #6
            Re: BH-C-284e, dropping of the network

            Originally posted by Synthohol
            If their network switch does auto-negotiation for network speed the copier does the same thing and they cancel eachother out and the switch drops the connection.
            Seen it happen a bunch of times.
            What you can do is set the speed to 100tx full duplex and have another computer get to a dos prompt and ping it -t ie: ping 192.168.1.x -t
            That will continually ping the copier and will show if and when the connection drops as you will get a no reply response.
            +1 very good test
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            • Hansoon
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              Re: BH-C-284e, dropping of the network

              If their network switch does auto-negotiation for network speed the copier does the same thing and they cancel eachother out and the switch drops the connection.
              Seen it happen a bunch of times.
              If that would be the case, could another switch between MFP and network switch avoid this situation?

              Hans
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              • copier tech
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                #8
                Re: BH-C-284e, dropping of the network

                Originally posted by Hansoon
                BH-C-284e was working very well after rebuild and testing in my workshop but now at the customers place it sometimes - after days, is dropping from the network and is coming back when the patch cable is taken out and put back again. Cable is already replaced once. Should I play with network speed?

                Any ideas please?

                Hans

                Update the firmware & function version then change the sleep mode settings, this was a known issue.

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                • shinchan
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                  • May 2011
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                  #9
                  Re: BH-C-284e, dropping of the network

                  Originally posted by Hansoon
                  BH-C-284e was working very well after rebuild and testing in my workshop but now at the customers place it sometimes - after days, is dropping from the network and is coming back when the patch cable is taken out and put back again. Cable is already replaced once. Should I play with network speed?

                  Any ideas please?

                  Hans
                  test ping from a computer to the MFP

                  open a cmd / command box.
                  type

                  ping (ip address of mfp)-t
                  ping 192.168.1.200 -t

                  it will ping continously to the machine.

                  check for any rto (request time out). this means, sometimes the machine is not communicating to the computer.

                  it could be bad lan cable or many switch to switch connection

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                  • copyman
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                    #10
                    Re: BH-C-284e, dropping of the network

                    +1 for turning off sleep mode

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                    • Hansoon
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                      Re: BH-C-284e, dropping of the network

                      Originally posted by copier tech

                      Update the firmware & function version then change the sleep mode settings, this was a known issue.

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                      Thanks, is there a bulletin for that?

                      FW: "A5C10Y0-F000-G20-M1(00)" is that the Latest&Greatest?

                      Allow me please a daft question: How can I update "Function Version"........

                      Hans
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                      • kingarthur
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                        • Feb 2008
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                        #12
                        Re: BH-C-284e, dropping of the network

                        Originally posted by Hansoon
                        Thanks, is there a bulletin for that?

                        FW: "A5C10Y0-F000-G20-M1(00)" is that the Latest&Greatest?

                        Allow me please a daft question: How can I update "Function Version"........

                        Hans
                        Sometimes when you update the FW it automatically updates the function version, if not, system 2 in service mode, softswitch 25 set HEX to "60" will give you function version 7, if at the latest FW
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                        • copier tech
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                          #13
                          Re: BH-C-284e, dropping of the network

                          Originally posted by Hansoon
                          Thanks, is there a bulletin for that?

                          FW: "A5C10Y0-F000-G20-M1(00)" is that the Latest&Greatest?

                          Allow me please a daft question: How can I update "Function Version"........

                          Hans

                          Here's the latest firmware bulletin.

                          Update the firmware then as King Arthur said 'system 2 in service mode, softswitch 25 set HEX to "60" will give you function 7'

                          Firmware Readme C454e C554e GDR-M1.pdf
                          Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                          For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                          www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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                          • wedotek
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                            • Mar 2021
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                            #14
                            Re: BH-C-284e, dropping of the network

                            Hello.


                            I just noticed this topic now.
                            I already had a similar situation with a model of the 4 series and I managed to solve it by changing the IP for another range and when I put the old IP back, I was already able to print.

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