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  • Copier Addict
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    • Jul 2013
    • 14590

    #16
    Re: C308 printing black only

    Originally posted by kingarthur
    I've got quite a few machines out there, that the drums have done nearly 3 times their life, and the cq is fine


    Maybe on the 4 and 4e series but never on the 8 series. Not in my experience.

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    • copyman
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      • Sep 2005
      • 4651

      #17
      Re: C308 printing black only

      It's all about the PCR roller. This prevents the newer drums lasting much past life like the older models 4 series, C220 series. I'm sure Kon/Min did this on purpose to make more money on drums / consumables. Their excuse was the change to PCR rollers was done to stop "ozones" that corona wires & sawtooth chargers create. Ha-ha

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      • copyman
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        • Sep 2005
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        #18
        Re: C308 printing black only

        By the way thanks to everyone who replied. Going out to see customer after holiday's. Will install 3 new drums and update Firmware.

        Happy Holiday's to all who celebrate.

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        • kingarthur
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          • Feb 2008
          • 1338

          #19
          Re: C308 printing black only

          Originally posted by copier addict
          Maybe on the 4 and 4e series but never on the 8 series. Not in my experience.

          This is from a C258 we've got in the field - 1st column is the actual yield, 2nd column is what the yield is supposed to be, last column is the "arrival factor" basically the current percentage - this is in an architects doing mainly colour copying

          Drum Unit (C) Rotation Time 17192 6539 262,92
          Drum Unit (M) Rotation Time 13901 6539 212,59
          Drum Unit (Y) Rotation Time 9079 6539 138,85
          Drum Unit (K) Rotation Time 11468 6539 175,38
          Tip for the day; Treat every problem as your dog would.....If you cant eat it or f*ck it....then p*ss on it & walk away...

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          • Copier Addict
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            #20
            Re: C308 printing black only

            Originally posted by kingarthur
            This is from a C258 we've got in the field - 1st column is the actual yield, 2nd column is what the yield is supposed to be, last column is the "arrival factor" basically the current percentage - this is in an architects doing mainly colour copying

            Drum Unit (C) Rotation Time 17192 6539 262,92
            Drum Unit (M) Rotation Time 13901 6539 212,59
            Drum Unit (Y) Rotation Time 9079 6539 138,85
            Drum Unit (K) Rotation Time 11468 6539 175,38


            You should be selling your secret. You could make real money.

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            • Oystercopy
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              • Oct 2009
              • 623

              #21
              Re: C308 printing black only

              I've seen the KMs stop printing (altogether, sometimes) when one (or more) of the drums are at end of life. Had one the other day that would say "ready to copy" and then scan, but do nothing with the job after that. Of course, that was a C-360 (old one) that just needed the Black drum chip replaced and away she went... So, even though your units are set to go past end of life, they could still shut the machine down at some point.
              OC

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              • Ziggy
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                • Feb 2018
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                #22
                Re: C308 printing black only

                Originally posted by copyman
                Haven't seen this before on 8 series. But think I've read on forums about this but couldn't find it. Customer called and said will print black only. Color drums are at 0% but all consumables / reminders are turned off in enhanced security mode, etc.

                Is there a soft switch that needs to be set?

                Customer is far away and would like to help them fix this issue over the phone so I can wait until next time there and will bring drums at that point.

                Thanks in advance!
                Are they using a Mac or Windows computer. I've seen where Mac's will stop printing when drums reach end of life regardless of the settings of the copier

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                • fornerm
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                  • Apr 2010
                  • 82

                  #23
                  Re: C308 printing black only

                  Hello,maybe the driver for the black and white machine is simply installed??Kind regards

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