Taskalfa 250ci Toner Container Motor Removal

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  • Buxsaw
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2016
    • 7

    [Error Code] Taskalfa 250ci Toner Container Motor Removal

  • blackcat4866
    Master Of The Obvious

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    • Jul 2007
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    #2
    Re: Taskalfa 250ci Toner Container Motor Removal

    There are known issues with the developing motors. The bulletin describes new style developing motors. You can get very similar symptoms with a partially fitted connector or a pinched wire. I've seen all three. I don't think that I've had to do anything with the toner motors, but you will find them on the inner rear frame. Also check to see if your toner cartridges are loose powder ... or a brick. You should be able to turn the cartridge drive easily with your fingers. If it's a brick, you may be able to break up the clumps by banging the top of the cartridge onto the parking lot. Simulation U135 should let you test each toner motor individually. =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    • Buxsaw
      Junior Member
      • Dec 2016
      • 7

      #3
      Re: Taskalfa 250ci Toner Container Motor Removal

      Would a loose connection from Transfer Belt cause this or just toner and developer?

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      • Buxsaw
        Junior Member
        • Dec 2016
        • 7

        #4
        Re: Taskalfa 250ci Toner Container Motor Removal

        Turns out it was the year that drives the black developer that was damaged now have to go on the hunt for a Main Drive assembly 302JZ93041, if anyone knows where to get one let me know can you check there were usual places like Item Inc

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        Last edited by Buxsaw; 08-17-2023, 12:07 AM.

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        • blackcat4866
          Master Of The Obvious

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          • Jul 2007
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          #5
          Re: Taskalfa 250ci Toner Container Motor Removal

          If you found the gear itself, I seem to recall that there was an issue with the gear staying on.

          I thought I remembered this one:
          CS-250ci/500ci Saturn
          C01
          607
          Black is entirely absent from all images.
          Black developer drive coupler falls off. The retaining collar is loose.
          Re-install black developer drive coupler. Insert a paper shim between the retaining collar and the coupler. 4hrs labor time.

          In a firmware update Kyocera programmed the machine to reverse drive towards the end of each print cycle, to make any loose toner on the developing roller to drop. At a certain point, all developing units sold had a coupler on the developing unit side that was tapered, to rattle the developing roller when the drive reversed. A side affect of that rattling is that the rear coupler gear falls off of the main drive pack. You DO need to remove the main drive pack to re-assemble it, assuming that you can find all the parts. I have been lucky at finding all the parts. =^..^=
          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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          • Buxsaw
            Junior Member
            • Dec 2016
            • 7

            #6
            Re: Taskalfa 250ci Toner Container Motor Removal

            Do you know anyone that sells the whole drive assembly?

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            • blackcat4866
              Master Of The Obvious

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              • Jul 2007
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              #7
              Re: Taskalfa 250ci Toner Container Motor Removal

              At 15 yrs old, I doubt you'll find a new part, but you might find a member with a viable corpse to get one from. Be aware of the count on a used part. That drive pack lasts ~1M prints before failure. Set aside 4hrs for this operation.

              Coupler.JPG

              Are you sure that you want to do this? It's a big time investment, with risks. =^..^=
              Attached Files
              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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              • blackcat4866
                Master Of The Obvious

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                • Jul 2007
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                #8
                Re: Taskalfa 250ci Toner Container Motor Removal

                Most of the time the coupler not be broken, only the pin fallen out. All you may need is a suitably sized replacement pin. When you reinstall the coupler:
                1) slip the clear ring onto the shaft
                2) insert coupler onto the shaft
                3) insert pin through the coupler
                4) cut a strip of paper 3mm x 50mm
                5) slip the paper strip trough the clear ring, slip the ring onto the coupler
                6) trim away excess paper. (The idea is to snug up the ring, so it doesn't slip off again)

                =^..^=
                If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                • Ropariva
                  Senior Tech

                  500+ Posts
                  • Mar 2016
                  • 597

                  #9

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                  • dalewb74
                    Service Manager

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                    • Feb 2018
                    • 1080

                    #10
                    Re: Taskalfa 250ci Toner Container Motor Removal

                    due to age, i would highly recommend upgrading the customer to something new...

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                    • KYO_OEM
                      Senior Tech

                      500+ Posts
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 637

                      #11
                      Re: Taskalfa 250ci Toner Container Motor Removal

                      i know it`s a late answer, but removal from toner motor can be ending in a nightmare..
                      Finally i could run any maintenance on Saturn Systems in a dark room, because each screw was well known by me.
                      If i remember correctely for removal from toner motor you has to start from the front.
                      Removal from yellow and green pwb, remove the 4 plate container centers between the 4 toner cartridges, after this you could remove the container drive unit with 1 motor.
                      Nightmare was beginning after mounting from the wirings on the green pwb during reassembling.
                      Very often the wiring would damaged during tighten from 1 screw. 1 cable would pitched and you got diff c-calls like c710x, because 24V line from 1 Dv unit broken.
                      Wirings are coming from the rear to the front, 1 part would used for the color units/ yellow pwb and 1 part would used for the green pwb/ BK color and others like fan, etc.
                      The wiring for color you can pitch by tighten from the upper left screw for the yellow pwb.
                      It also can happen a few month ago, depended on how strong you had tighten this screw.
                      Take care for this.
                      Attached Files

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                      • Buxsaw
                        Junior Member
                        • Dec 2016
                        • 7

                        #12
                        Re: Taskalfa 250ci Toner Container Motor Removal

                        Got a OEM Main Drive from Item Inc. After more than 4 hours copier is up and running. If 2 screws were in better spots this would have been a hour job. Booo Kyocera.

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                        • blackcat4866
                          Master Of The Obvious

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                          #13
                          Re: Taskalfa 250ci Toner Container Motor Removal

                          Congratulations! ... and on the first try. When there's that much wire harness, that many connectors, it's so easy to miss a connector. Nice work!
                          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                          • Buxsaw
                            Junior Member
                            • Dec 2016
                            • 7

                            #14
                            Re: Taskalfa 250ci Toner Container Motor Removal

                            Originally posted by blackcat4866
                            Congratulations! ... and on the first try. When there's that much wire harness, that many connectors, it's so easy to miss a connector. Nice work!

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