IM C3500 ADF JAMMING

[fritzyas]

We have issues on NEW 5 IMC3500 Machines.All are having ADF paper jam. No paper jams only when start copyin, the ADF feed unit will go down but the rollers will not turn. WE change already the motors and clutches and ADF control board but still the same. Need your help guys.

[TonerMunkeh]

Re: IM C3500 ADF JAMMING

Which DF is it and what jam number is it?

[fritzyas]

Re: IM C3500 ADF JAMMING

DF3110 ARDF - There was no code. Just when you press start, the pick up Roller will go down. The paper feed clutch and paper feed motor will turn on but it cant drive the paper pick up roller and belt.

[TonerMunkeh]

Re: IM C3500 ADF JAMMING

That's bizarre. Were the ADF's fitted on the machines when you got them? Can you post a video of what they are doing?

[copier tech]

Re: IM C3500 ADF JAMMING

We have issues on NEW 5 IMC3500 Machines.All are having ADF paper jam. No paper jams only when start copyin, the ADF feed unit will go down but the rollers will not turn. WE change already the motors and clutches and ADF control board but still the same. Need your help guys.

Check all the DF sensors work using input checks.

Also check the DF drive using output check.

Update the firmware may have a bug.

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: IM C3500 ADF JAMMING

DF3110 ARDF - There was no code. Just when you press start, the pick up Roller will go down. The paper feed clutch and paper feed motor will turn on but it cant drive the paper pick up roller and belt.

There's probably a one way gear somewhere in the drive assembly that is bad.

EDIT: I had the same exact problem on a Kyocera and it was a one way gear that was slipping. Not sure about yours. I had to remove the entire drive pack and disassemble to find the one-way gear.

EDIT II: If you think about it, if this is a reversing ADF, it has one motor that is responsible for the forward direction of the paper (paper feed) and the reversing of the paper (duplex). So, it has to have a one-way gear so that the pick up and feed roller aren't turning when the paper reverses direction when duplexing. If the one-way gear is slipping you will lose drive.

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: IM C3500 ADF JAMMING

One more thing: The way I was able to determine that something was going on with the gear pack in the ADF is I ran a simulation to check the doc. feeder without paper and I put my finger on the pick up roller and noticed that it wanted to turn but the slightest amount of pressure from my finger would cause it to stop turning. From there I deduced that there had to be a one-way gear that was slipping. You may try that.

[fritzyas]

Re: IM C3500 ADF JAMMING

One more thing: The way I was able to determine that something was going on with the gear pack in the ADF is I ran a simulation to check the doc. feeder without paper and I put my finger on the pick up roller and noticed that it wanted to turn but the slightest amount of pressure from my finger would cause it to stop turning. From there I deduced that there had to be a one-way gear that was slipping. You may try that.

Thanks Billy, You are right, when I remove the load on the drive gears they will turn but if i put just a small pressure it will stop. And I found out that their were 2 one way gear on that drive. I'll try to request for it and come back to you.

[Morty]

Re: IM C3500 ADF JAMMING

We have issues on NEW 5 IMC3500 Machines.All are having ADF paper jam. No paper jams only when start copyin, the ADF feed unit will go down but the rollers will not turn. WE change already the motors and clutches and ADF control board but still the same. Need your help guys.

I had the same problem, I checked and cleaned a one-way pulley . The one that is engaged to the black gear. Below the pick-up clutch.
Good luck

Morty

[JonJames]

Re: IM C3500 ADF JAMMING

We have issues on NEW 5 IMC3500 Machines.All are having ADF paper jam. No paper jams only when start copyin, the ADF feed unit will go down but the rollers will not turn. WE change already the motors and clutches and ADF control board but still the same. Need your help guys.

have had issues with a few here

change these parts to fix

1 x D3FE4265 Paper Feed Drive Reversal
1 x D3FE4225 Gear, Timing Pulley Reverse Roller
1 x D3FE4281 Stopper, Paper Feed Reversal

Jon

[Gift]

Re: IM C3500 ADF JAMMING

have had issues with a few here

change these parts to fix

1 x D3FE4265 Paper Feed Drive Reversal
1 x D3FE4225 Gear, Timing Pulley Reverse Roller
1 x D3FE4281 Stopper, Paper Feed Reversal

Jon

Thanks, I haven't dealt with this issue so far but i put a note in our tech doc archive with your hint, sounds like we need get back to it some day^^

[luca72]

Re: IM C3500 ADF JAMMING

We have issues on NEW 5 IMC3500 Machines.All are having ADF paper jam. No paper jams only when start copyin, the ADF feed unit will go down but the rollers will not turn. WE change already the motors and clutches and ADF control board but still the same. Need your help guys.

try to check the white plastic slider cover, of the rubber stamp position, under the trasparent upper tray in the under corner side (im sorry but i not able to post photos)

[bitels85]

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Thanks Billy, You are right, when I remove the load on the drive gears they will turn but if i put just a small pressure it will stop. And I found out that their were 2 one way gear on that drive. I'll try to request for it and come back to you.

Did it work?

[bitels85]

Re: IM C3500 ADF JAMMING

We have issues on NEW 5 IMC3500 Machines.All are having ADF paper jam. No paper jams only when start copyin, the ADF feed unit will go down but the rollers will not turn. WE change already the motors and clutches and ADF control board but still the same. Need your help guys.

We have issues on NEW 5 IMC3500 Machines.All are having ADF paper jam. No paper jams only when start copyin, the ADF feed unit will go down but the rollers will not turn. WE change already the motors and clutches and ADF control board but still the same. Need your help guys.

Same issue Model:IM C4500 df type: D3FE (DF3110) ARDF.

So far replaced:

AX200341 ELECTROMAGNET IC CLUTCH
D3FE5150 PCB1

... and still jamming...

Has anyone resolved this?

To be honest I don't understand

[semi]

Re: IM C3500 ADF JAMMING

Change the one way bearing on the sep roller drive shaft