Gun Control

[Shadow]

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DWise was shooting blanks in his previous post............................

[DWise]

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I'll try it again...

[Akitu]

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Not sure what you tried to post DWise, it absolutely refuses to load your image, at least for me anyways...

[DWise]

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[Akitu]

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Another mouth breather who shouldn't have been allowed to have the first kid, never mind the second one.

5-year-old Kentucky boy fatally shoots 2-year-old sister - CNN.com

Make that a pair of them, there's a third story about another 4 year old killing a 48 year old, but I feel it's just redundant at this point.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/09/us/new-jersey-child-shooting/index.html

[Shadow]

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Jesse James

My mother has been doing genealogy for over 40 years and found many a skeleton in the family history.
I am related to Jesse James on my mom's side of the family, thus the American connection.

[MR Bill]

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OK Shadow. Who is the bad guy you are related too if you don't mind telling.? I won't hold it against you. You are a friend on here. I'm related to Meriweather Lewis. I guess that's why I love exploring. Do you know of a lake on Vancover Island that hasen't be discovered yet. I'd like to go there. LOL.

[Shadow]

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I read the story about the mall shooter as well.
I agree with you Akitu, the guy took the cowards way out.
At least he saved the cost of a lengthy trial and endless appeals.

Mr.Bill,
I too am annoyed that SalesServiceGuy can only cut & paste his responses to this discussion.
It is obvious that he is unable to participate in a though provoking, fact based discussion with regards to the US Second Amendment and now the Canadian Bill of Rights.
Firearms have been an advantage to settlers of both countries for hunting to feed one's family, and in defense of sovereign lands.

[Akitu]

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Not sure what is the cool story akitu. Mother Jones or the Clackamas Mall shooter? Anyway The shooter at the Mall is Jacob Roberts. He killed 2 people and then saw Nick Meli with his gun starting to sight in on him and he ducked down. Nick Meli did not want to shoot because he was worried about hitting a innocent bystander if he missed. So Jacob Roberts decided to kill himself. This mall was a gun free zone by the way. Good thing Nick Meli said screw that. He is a hero. Not pissed at you akitu or anybody. . Servicesalesguy is really stating to annoy me thou. He won't post anything except anti gun junk. And excuse some of my bad verbage. I'm in a hurry.

The mall shooter was the cool story. Vigilante justice at its finest. Shame he took the coward's way out however.

[MR Bill]

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Not sure what is the cool story akitu. Mother Jones or the Clackamas Mall shooter? Anyway The shooter at the Mall is Jacob Roberts. He killed 2 people and then saw Nick Meli with his gun starting to sight in on him and he ducked down. Nick Meli did not want to shoot because he was worried about hitting a innocent bystander if he missed. So Jacob Roberts decided to kill himself. This mall was a gun free zone by the way. Good thing Nick Meli said screw that. He is a hero. Not pissed at you akitu or anybody. . Servicesalesguy is really stating to annoy me thou. He won't post anything except anti gun junk. And excuse some of my bad verbage. I'm in a hurry.

[Akitu]

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OK Atitu , You really believe what Mother Jones has to say. Really bias reporting and NOT truthful.I started reading the 10 myths and had to stop at #4. It say #4. More good guys with guns can stop rampaging bad guys. So it say # of mass shooting stopped by armed civiians in the last 30 years== 0 as in Zero. That is compleat BS. Google Clackamas Mall shooter. From Clackamas , Oregon. Story about a Shiiithead punk that went into the mall and killed 2 people. He was going to kill lots more. I think his gun jammed but he got it working and blow himself away . OH, are you going to say the LEGEL CCW holder didn't kill him so that doesnt count?? Please. Yes the CCW holder stopped him from a mass killing spree. This happened a few days after Sandy Hook. Didn't here andthing about it did you. Talk about bias reporting.

I didn't believe it. I found the article interesting and posted seeking the opinions of someone with a more vested interest than myself. Nowhere in my post did I say how I felt one way or the other.

Cool story though.

[MR Bill]

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OK Atitu , You really believe what Mother Jones has to say. Really bias reporting and NOT truthful.I started reading the 10 myths and had to stop at #4. It say #4. More good guys with guns can stop rampaging bad guys. So it say # of mass shooting stopped by armed civiians in the last 30 years== 0 as in Zero. That is compleat BS. Google Clackamas Mall shooter. From Clackamas , Oregon. Story about a Shiiithead punk that went into the mall and killed 2 people. He was going to kill lots more. I think his gun jammed but he got it working and blow himself away . OH, are you going to say the LEGEL CCW holder didn't kill him so that doesnt count?? Please. Yes the CCW holder stopped him from a mass killing spree. This happened a few days after Sandy Hook. Didn't here andthing about it did you. Talk about bias reporting.

[Akitu]

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I recognized the copy-pasta method was ill-received so I changed my own tactics on posting the things I felt might be interesting for the sake of conversation. So far nobody has responded to my last post, can't be certain how to interpret that - as either a foot in a mouth or an insignificant blip on the radar.

[Shadow]

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Iowatech,

I am in no way trying to slight you in the least, how are you to know what our Canadian Constitution, British North American Act and Charter of Rights contains.
I too am frustrated with SalesServiceGuy's continual cut & paste antics. It seems that all he can do is quote from news reports and political posturing.
I posed a question to him asking what he was afraid of, and there was no solid answer from him.
I am sure that he will sit and read this post and have another misinformed opinion and be looking for something else that he can cut & paste in an attempt to solidify his position.
I try to keep myself informed about the American Constitution and Bill of Rights, as one of my great grandmothers was an American Citizen. I am a blood decedent of one of your nations notorious outlaws, I like to keep informed.
I have family in Minnesota, New York, Texas and California.

I hate to say this, but;

No matter how many laws there are on the books, there will still be persons with firearms that misuse them.
Some of those firearms will be legally obtained, and many not so.
You must take in to consideration that a firearm by its self is not deadly.
The person that has possession of that firearm can, and should, be considered deadly.

[Iowatech]

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Right to bear arms

The right to bear arms has existed in English common law for at least 300 years and is imported into Canadian law by the preamble of the BNA Act, 1867 and section 26 of the Charter. Section 26 declares that traditional rights not listed in the Charter continue to have force and effect in Canada. The first explicit recognition of the right to bear arms in British-Canadian law occurs in the 1689 Bill of Rights. It is re-affirmed by the celebrated Blackstone in his Commentaries as one of the five most important rights of British subjects; and confirmed in several 18th and 19th century precedents. Although this right is subject to regulation by parliament, in Sparrow (1990), the Supreme Court affirmed that regulation of a right does not automatically extinguish the right. The right to bear arms is thus an historical right of all Canadians; affirmed by section 26 of the Charter.

Dang, that didn't work in this case even a little bit.
First of all, thanks for the info. I had no idea, and if you want you can call me a lazy dope or something for not finding that out.
On the other hand, while Canada is probably the greatest neighbor a country like the United States could possibly have, and while the Bill of Rights is based on British common law, the Bill of Rights is something unique to the United States. As such, I get annoyed when "SalesServiceGuy" tries to insert himself into that, and I'm just trying to make him prove his point.