Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

[fshead]

Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

I started wth the hp 1 back in the 80s and stopped after the 4300 series..saw so many bad laser unit calls and refused to resell any HPs

[sanvicente]

Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

Hated Di151 and Di1610...

Also any A4 desk color mfp from KM like de c20, c25...

[blackcat4866]

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Mita DC513Z Copier

They weren't that bad after the $5000 worth of updates ... so OK, they still weren't that great.

[anothertech]

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Canon NP-6060? Took a lot of work to keep one running. Jammed a lot.

[Oze]

Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

Canon IRC3100...hands down.

[anothertech]

Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

Canon IRC3100...hands down.

oh yeah, I forgot about that one, and the IRC 5870, when I went to school on those, I just said "you've got to be kidding" they were so bad.

[rspicer]

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I've worked on plenty of crap machines during my 25 years in this business. When I was a Lanier tech back in the mid 90s, there was a Panasonic in their line that was horrible to work on. I don't remember the model number. Then, when I started on the Toshiba analogs, the 1550 ate everybody's lunch. Their first attempts at digital were miserable too. I hated anything with a model number starting with DP. The e-studio line was not bad, maybe because I had gotten used to Toshibas by then. The worst thing they ever did though, was the Toshiba-Oki hybrid from Hell. The e407CS color and e477S b/w series are service nightmares. Doc feeds with cheap gears that don't mesh well, drums and fusers that never reach their expected life, and any other thing that needs to be replaced takes half a day to get to it.

[stat]

Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

My vote is for the Ricoh 1224c/1232c

[Lagonda]

Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

This week it is the HP P777 Pagewide injet A3 series. Launched buy HP two years ago to revolutionise the A3 copier market it failed spectacularly.
It only had half a brain, could never work out where the head cleaning sled was, and it didn't measure the length of the paper so it never knew when it had a paper jam.
The C/Q was awful, anybody that was "upgraded" to one was on the phone to the rep before the week was out asking for their old worn out laser back.
I notice that HP quietly stopped manufacturing them and hasn't announced a replacement.

[Zeldaman]

[SalesServiceGuy]

Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

Can you expand on your discontent with the 77650? I have a new Toshiba A3 laser MFP quote to replace a very old Kyocera but the IT Administrator/ Decision maker is a HP fan and does not want to believe me that he is making a bad choice. In this case, a finisher is not required.

[Zeldaman]

[SalesServiceGuy]

Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

With your big help, I think I have been able to dissuade the the customer from acquiring an A3 PageWide MFP.

What has been your experience with HP's A3 color laser based MFPs like the E87640- 40 cpm? Pros/Cons

Thanks,

[copier tech]

Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

All Xerox the end............

[Lagonda]

Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

With your big help, I think I have been able to dissuade the the customer from acquiring an A3 PageWide MFP.

What has been your experience with HP's A3 color laser based MFPs like the E87640- 40 cpm? Pros/Cons

Thanks,

Very basic and don't play well with 3rd party software. Heaps of firmware updates but as they fix one issue its more than likely to introduce a new one.
C/Q is very average, we have lots of problems with background on new machines at run up. HP's solution.......run off 15k copies to condition the drums!