Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

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  • throttlejockey
    Technician
    • Mar 2008
    • 17

    #151
    Originally posted by DocF
    The Savin LTT machines were tanks. We had about 1000 7350s out in a school system. We did one PM a year, pulled out a paper jam once in a while and they just flat ran. Rubber gloves and diapers were part of our tool kit. I still use them. The kids I work for now think that's funny, but they didn't have to deal with those.


    Doc
    I was about to add the Savin liquids. When I started in the biz thats what I was broke in on . The kerosen dispersent saved me from buying afew carpets. I used have to clean the tanks so we could just swap them what shit that was.

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    • jomu

      #152
      Ricoh 1035-2045

      My opinion of the biggest piece of you know what is the entire Ricoh family of Aficio1035-2045. No matter what you do to these monsters they are never right and never will be

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      • Lone Tech

        #153
        I mainly work on Canon for their pos I have two the NP115 remember the table drive clutch pack. A faris wheel of rap spring clutches. the other the NP 6012 the stack of tech pubs is thicker than the manual. The biggest pain was the springs for the clam shell going through the base frame. I don't know how many of those kits I put in. I hoped they would blow out before I got to it so we could send it back to canon they made it they can fix it.

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        • Jomama46
          Field Supervisor

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          2,500+ Posts
          • Apr 2008
          • 2900

          #154
          Toshiba 601 and Toshiba 909.
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          • nilsonmorales

            #155
            sharp 2118

            also 2020 the unit fuser was a problem

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            • AndrewPeto

              #156
              Rubbish!

              Anyone remember the old Panasonic FP-1520? REALLY hated it! to get the toner callibration right was seriously painful!

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              • blackcat4866
                Master Of The Obvious

                Site Contributor
                10,000+ Posts
                • Jul 2007
                • 22999

                #157
                I was the lucky one that got to update all the Canon NP-6012F/6412Fs in our area. More than 50 of them.

                Some of the billable customers woudn't let me in, thinking I was some sort of sneaky copier salesman. Somehow they couldn't understand the free/ warranty part of the conversation.

                It was quite entertaining explaining to them a year later that the spring repair would have been free last year.

                =^..^=
                If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                • nmfaxman
                  Service Manager

                  Site Contributor
                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 1702

                  #158
                  Liquids and Minolta 410z

                  Liquids sucked, but the Minolta 410z was the quirkiest and most difficult to work on.
                  I hope the guy that designed th fuser was condemmed to an eternity of rebuilding it.
                  Biggest jamamatic was the Minolta 4230. Sales people said EP meant every paper and it couldn't even feed regular paper well.
                  Why do they call it common sense?

                  If it were common, wouldn't everyone have it?

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                  • RyanPacific
                    Linux Ninja

                    50+ Posts
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 97

                    #159
                    Junk

                    Toshiba EStudio 3511/4511, messy low quality garbage.
                    Service Business Equipment
                    New, Used, Refurbished Copy Machines and Printers
                    Copiers in Seattle, Kent, Tacoma and Bellevue

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                    • LY3IJ
                      Technician

                      50+ Posts
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 53

                      #160
                      konica 7015....
                      got more than 20 of them....
                      c60 and image unit....... terrible....
                      stupid design... try removing jam from fuser unit....

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                      • bernyb
                        Technician

                        Site Contributor
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 42

                        #161
                        I agree with JoJo

                        I hated that Xerox 2020. I couldn't believe Xerox engineers would even put their name on it. The 3100 was a piece of crap anyway and then when they decided to put that 500lbs of metal on top of it they didn't even improve the faults they knew about for years. I know not many of you had worked on them but the Xerox 6500 was one of the worst machines bar none to work on. It took a year of working on them every day to even begin to understand them. They had paper path switches that failed almost immediately they used to put all of them in every pm kit. A 25K pm kit! Ridiculous.

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                        • Vlad
                          Technician
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 23

                          #162
                          Originally posted by Aneurysm
                          Since this was my favorite queston posted, I will bring it up again,
                          Which copier was the biggest peice of crap ever? :evil:
                          Konica 2020!!!

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                          • ZeusGT
                            Trusted Tech
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 271

                            #163
                            Yeah, I have to agree with the Minolta 4230... yuk yuk. The Minolta 410z was quit a pain in the azz, but the 4230 was the only machine that I know that you could put a new clutch in the duplex and it would still jam...
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                            • Rudi
                              Technician

                              250+ Posts
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 251

                              #164
                              Yeah The Ep 4230 Might Have Had Its Problems But I Will Run Any B420 B500 Di 650 Di7210 Di1611 Di2011 B162 B210 Into The Ground With That Machine Or With The Ep 3170 For That Matter. That Is Going According To Cost And Endurance.

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                              • Copybob

                                #165
                                Savin 7035?

                                I'm surprised no one mentioned the Savin 7035! Even Ricoh was embarassed with this box!!

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