Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

[kingpd@businessprints.net]

Only thing I know about the Igen is the toner cartridges are freaking HUGE. I left X in 05, when they were doing all the cutting. I couldn't take it anymore.

It seems that X never really valued their techs very well from what I've heard. It also looks like they're making more and more parts/supplies user replaceable. Just wait, some freakin' idiot is going to burn their hands off while replacing a fuser unit/roller without letting it cool first...hehe.

[kingpd@businessprints.net]

I was trained on 1065 family and the 5046 which used a smaller version of that fuser. Fuser agent was stored in a bottle and circulated by AIR PRESSURE. In other words a puddle on the floor which turned said floor into an Ice Skating Ring. (Pump was introduced later, much to late)

I wondered how that worked. I remember one time, someone dumping the oil directly on the fuser rollers...the dumb*ss.

[ExXeroid]

The fuser agent bottle sat in the trough. The bottom had two openings, one for dispensing and one for recovery. Fuser agent was supposed to circulate through the system. If the top of the bottle (where agent was filled) was not sealed or if the bottle was filled past the max level there was a problem.

[ExXeroid]

It seems that X never really valued their techs very well from what I've heard. It also looks like they're making more and more parts/supplies user replaceable. Just wait, some freakin' idiot is going to burn their hands off while replacing a fuser unit/roller without letting it cool first...hehe.

Xerox started the CRU (Customer replaceable unit) craze and then there was the failed Service Agent Program. You are 100% right about how they treated the techs. When I started there as a wee lad, it was a great place to work. By the time I left it was horrible.

[kingpd@businessprints.net]

The fuser agent bottle sat in the trough. The bottom had two openings, one for dispensing and one for recovery. Fuser agent was supposed to circulate through the system. If the top of the bottle (where agent was filled) was not sealed or if the bottle was filled past the max level there was a problem.

I wonder if anyone out there still uses some of those older X machines. An acquaintence had acquired a 1090 about a year ago but I don't know where he'd get parts for it. It's my understanding that a lot of foreign countries grab up our older and off lease machines. I've even heard tales of some countries still using (and apparently very fortunate to have) some old diddo and mimeograph machines.

[kingpd@businessprints.net]

Xerox started the CRU (Customer replaceable unit) craze and then there was the failed Service Agent Program. You are 100% right about how they treated the techs. When I started there as a wee lad, it was a great place to work. By the time I left it was horrible.

That's unfortunate b/c most of the X sales reps that I encountered weren't very friendly. It was the techs that were always talkative and fun to be around. I gained a lot of knowledge and began to like office equipment via talking with an X rep when I was a teenager. He was pretty funny too.

[Jimbo1]

I still vote for the original Aficio 350-450. Toner dusting pigs.

[ExXeroid]

I wonder if anyone out there still uses some of those older X machines. An acquaintence had acquired a 1090 about a year ago but I don't know where he'd get parts for it. It's my understanding that a lot of foreign countries grab up our older and off lease machines. I've even heard tales of some countries still using (and apparently very fortunate to have) some old diddo and mimeograph machines.

Yes I have been told that once the leasing company get machines back here, they resell them cheap. Whatever does get sold locally gets exported to other lands

[ExXeroid]

That's unfortunate b/c most of the X sales reps that I encountered weren't very friendly. It was the techs that were always talkative and fun to be around. I gained a lot of knowledge and began to like office equipment via talking with an X rep when I was a teenager. He was pretty funny too.

Every Tech I have ever met that has long term experience on copiers are great X or otherwise.

[ExXeroid]

I still vote for the original Aficio 350-450. Toner dusting pigs.

All analog machines were toner dusting pigs. The one I brought up, Xerox 5046, would dump toner and fuser agent, does make it worse then your Aficio? No, it made it more fun.

[ExXeroid]

lmfao...you should burn a copy and send it to xante.

Looks like the Xante fought back a little!

My favorite is the video of the Igen on fire at Drupa.
Talk about a toner dusting pig!

[copyguy2]

hey, did anyone work on the XEROX 5322 series? early to late 90's...

[Penvy]

I would have PAID to see that Fire at Drupa
Popcorn and everything else

[ExXeroid]

The Xerox 1050 comes to mind,anyone ever had to re-wired the optics and or the legal 2nd tray within the machine?
A pain it truly was.

Dude the 1048 was worse. That duplex tray was a nightmare, anything that had to deal with two sided was a nightmare in that machine. That is why most guys hated the "B52s" did you ever work on a B52?

[ExXeroid]

hey, did anyone work on the XEROX 5322 series? early to late 90's...

Was that part of Crossbow, Longbow? I think I was trained on it. Clamshells suck.