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  • tinnyjay
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    #1

    Canon CLC3200 out of focus copies.

    Hello!
    We have a Canon CLC3200 with changed parts(fuser,drums,) but when copy it prints a foggy image like images below.TB is changed 3-4 times but with used TBs and sensors are cleaned,installed new firmware,full adjusted(user adjustment mode) and still the same thing.Please help me if you can
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  • SCREWTAPE
    East Coast Imaging

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    #2
    Your registration is off.

    Are you a tech?

    Check out this thread you should find some info on your issue.

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    • tinnyjay
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      #3
      Originally posted by SCREWTAPE
      Your registration is off.

      Are you a tech?

      Check out this thread you should find some info on your issue.
      http://www.copytechnet.com/forums/ca...on-models.html
      Please can you tell me which registration is off?(inside TB unit) I am a tech,but i am not trained on these machines).
      "Who loves the roses,must also bear thumbs"

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      • blazebusiness
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        #4
        A lot of things might be causing this problem. But I guess I would start with the ITB belt - might be slipping, you could try cleaning the belt interior and drive rollers. Replacing it with a used belt is not the way to go.

        After cleaning those drive rollers (and replacing the cleaning blade while you are in there) test it again. If still blurry you may have a problem with itb drive assy. Problems like this are also sometimes resolved by adjusting the lasers but in your case I'll bet not. Focus your efforts on the ITB unit drive or slipping problems.
        Last edited by blazebusiness; 10-16-2010, 07:06 PM.
        sigpicAnything can be made to work if you fiddle with it long enough- San Diego Copier Repair.com

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        • Fer
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          #5
          This a very common problem on the 3200 model.

          Root cause is the slipping of the ITB (transfer belt).

          U should start with cleaning inside or replace the belt, also clean de drive roller. That is the thick black rubber roller. Use a good rubber cleaner en clean it thourough.

          Sometimes the slipping causes the calibration routine to get stuck. U can reset it with a dc-con clear. Just remember to make p-print first, a put the p-print values back in the cleared dc controller.

          If that doesn;t work, u can get out the lasers and put them in home possition manually.

          All these tricks can be found in detail in former topics on this board.

          Good luck.

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          • blazebusiness
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            #6
            Originally posted by Fer
            This a very common problem on the 3200 model.

            Root cause is the slipping of the ITB (transfer belt).

            U should start with cleaning inside or replace the belt, also clean de drive roller. That is the thick black rubber roller. Use a good rubber cleaner en clean it thourough.

            Sometimes the slipping causes the calibration routine to get stuck. U can reset it with a dc-con clear. Just remember to make p-print first, a put the p-print values back in the cleared dc controller.

            If that doesn;t work, u can get out the lasers and put them in home possition manually.

            All these tricks can be found in detail in former topics on this board.

            Good luck.
            I agree with Fer that a dcon clr might also help. If you use rubber cleaner on that black roller-don't use it on anything else. Do not clean the belt interior with rubber cleaner! Use alcohol or water dampened cloth.
            sigpicAnything can be made to work if you fiddle with it long enough- San Diego Copier Repair.com

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            • tinnyjay
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              #7
              Something else i learned about this copier.One of my guys said me he reset the copier(Factory Settings) and now i am thinking if any value in Service Mode must set to another values.
              After i made a Full Adjust the copier printed test page and the colors was perfectly correct,but not in a straight line.Yellow was 3 mm up,black was 2-3 mm down and so two other colors but the block of colors was wanderful.Maybe this helps.
              "Who loves the roses,must also bear thumbs"

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              • Fer
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                #8
                If he did a dc-con clear, he should also put the values of copier, adjust back. Maybe there is a paper in the door compartment with the factory values.

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                • tinnyjay
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Fer
                  If he did a dc-con clear, he should also put the values of copier, adjust back. Maybe there is a paper in the door compartment with the factory values.
                  Yeah,i found the paper with values.Are they right tu put'em back?
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                  • blazebusiness
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by tinnyjay
                    Yeah,i found the paper with values.Are they right tu put'em back?
                    No harm in doing that. Certainly worth a try and those values should always be entered anyway after performing a clear.
                    My money is still on a problem with the ITB though.
                    sigpicAnything can be made to work if you fiddle with it long enough- San Diego Copier Repair.com

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                    • teckat
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by tinnyjay
                      yeah,i found the paper with values.are they right tu put'em back?

                      Preventive measures for possible color displacement in the paper feed (sub scanning) and the main scan (front
                      to rear) direction


                      read this pdf for 3200-3220

                      iR3200-3220 TP03.pdf


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                      • SCREWTAPE
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                        #12
                        Firmware is important too.
                        Especially DCCON.

                        When I used to work on these, I had that Tech pub in my bag.

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                        • tinnyjay
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by teckat
                          Preventive measures for possible color displacement in the paper feed (sub scanning) and the main scan (front
                          to rear) direction


                          read this pdf for 3200-3220

                          [ATTACH]6664[/ATTACH]


                          I'm such a nice guy
                          Not just a nice guy,but a very nice guy
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                          • Fer
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by blazebusiness
                            No harm in doing that. Certainly worth a try and those values should always be entered anyway after performing a clear.
                            My money is still on a problem with the ITB though.
                            From his first post i assume that with TB, he meant ITB Assy.

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                            • tinnyjay
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                              #15
                              Yes,its true
                              "Who loves the roses,must also bear thumbs"

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