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  • Synthohol
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    the olden days

    Found some old relics today. 20240907_100310.jpg

    the stapler jig was the best tool ever. i stole it from konica (or should i say minolta) school before it was able to be ordered.
    We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
    The medication helps though...
  • copyman
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    #2
    Originally posted by Synthohol
    Found some old relics today. 20240907_100310.jpg

    the stapler jig was the best tool ever. i stole it from konica (or should i say minolta) school before it was able to be ordered.
    Showing our age Synthohol
    Speaking of jigs, recently I found a few interlock switch jigs, back in the day techs often had to troublesoot with front door open and jumped interlocks with jigs so they could watch paper travel through machine, see if corona wires were on and glowing purple, etc, etc. Also jigs to hold shocks so machine didn't fall on your hand (machines open like a clam shell). Or of course you could fold up a piece of paper to jump interlock.

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    • tsbservice
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      #3
      I still use piece of paper jigs. Had to use many times toner bags with cap closed(against machine weight) to support clamshells, also my long screwdriver(dangerous) but who cares when you are younger
      Didn't see many new techs so I guess old tricks are good always.
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      • Synthohol
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        #4
        Door jig you say?

        20240908_024938.jpg
        We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
        The medication helps though...

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        • copyman
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          #5
          Originally posted by tsbservice
          I still use piece of paper jigs. Had to use many times toner bags with cap closed(against machine weight) to support clamshells, also my long screwdriver(dangerous) but who cares when you are younger
          Didn't see many new techs so I guess old tricks are good always.
          tsb, didn't know you were old school tech. Of course I know you have a great amount of tech knowledge but didn't know you went back 40 years when clamshells were around. Yes forgot about holding up clamshells with long screwdriver. Can't recall any shocks that worked after machine was a little older or sometimes right out of the box. OEM's came out with a lot of mods to keep shocks up because of end users suing them for being injured when clamshell fell on their hands.

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          • Synthohol
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            #6
            i had a pair of small vice grips id just clamp on the piston rod. only took 1 clamshell to fall on my head and hands to start doing that
            We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
            The medication helps though...

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            • tsbservice
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              #7
              copyman I started 2000 year. Back then I worked on analogue Toshibas, BD2510, 5020, 3550, infamous 1550 and many more. We have brand new and second hand stock so the learning curve was exponential I may not have a lot of experience like many people around with 30,40+ years in field but I have afair with copiers and they talk me... , heh just kidding but you got the point.
              A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
              Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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              • Markks
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                #8
                Also used to polish drums with brasso , there's no telling what chemicals/metals are in my body

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                • Larhal
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Markks
                  Also used to polish drums with brasso , there's no telling what chemicals/metals are in my body
                  The old selenium arsenic drums. Have done thousands of them with Brasso.
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                  • elmaligno
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by copyman

                    Showing our age Synthohol
                    Speaking of jigs, recently I found a few interlock switch jigs, back in the day techs often had to troublesoot with front door open and jumped interlocks with jigs so they could watch paper travel through machine, see if corona wires were on and glowing purple, etc, etc. Also jigs to hold shocks so machine didn't fall on your hand (machines open like a clam shell). Or of course you could fold up a piece of paper to jump interlock.
                    Old Minoltas EP, like 5400, 8600, 4230, 5425, and older like EP270, EP490.....great and hard times!!
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                    • copyman
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Larhal

                      The old selenium arsenic drums. Have done thousands of them with Brasso.
                      Dealers were suppose to send the selenium arsenic drums back to OEM to dispose of them properly or to recycle but not many did. They were thrown into trash!

                      What about polishing the earlier CDS Cadmium Sulfide Drums with Pikel polish. Both deadly shit.

                      "Cadmium sulfide is toxic, especially dangerous when inhaled as dust, and cadmium compounds in general are classified as carcinogenic. Problems of biocompatibility have been reported when CdS is used as colors in tattoos"

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                      • Larhal
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by copyman

                        Dealers were suppose to send the selenium arsenic drums back to OEM to dispose of them properly or to recycle but not many did. They were thrown into trash!

                        What about polishing the earlier CDS Cadmium Sulfide Drums with Pikel polish. Both deadly shit.

                        "Cadmium sulfide is toxic, especially dangerous when inhaled as dust, and cadmium compounds in general are classified as carcinogenic. Problems of biocompatibility have been reported when CdS is used as colors in tattoos"
                        We are really showing our ages! with all that shit how did we make it this far?
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                        • larweedad
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                          #13
                          I still have a bottle of this. I am old also.
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                          • Synthohol
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                            #14
                            who still has the little orange screwdriver to adjust the atdc pots on the old dinosaurs?
                            or my favorite from the olden days, the ants marching to the picnic on the warm up screen.
                            then with a FW update it was gone only later a rocket ship take off was supposed to keep us amused as it warmed up.
                            bring back the ants! there was another one from long ago and seems those brain cells are gone and i cant5 remember.
                            maybe other animals a circus?
                            im sure someone here will either confirm my insanity or remember as well and i wont have to wear the self hugging canvas jacket.
                            We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                            The medication helps though...

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                            • copyman
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by larweedad
                              I still have a bottle of this. I am old also.
                              I actually still use fuser oil to quiet squeaky fuser bearings. It doesn't smoke up the whole office like a regular lube will with hot fuser. This is usually a temp fix until the fuser oil dries out.

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