Biz 808 and FS534 finisher ???

[copyman]

I know both the FS536 & FS534 can be used on the smaller "8" series models but can the FS534 work on the bigger 808? Has anyone tried it? The sales brochure & service manual only show the FS536 as smaller finisher option. Trying to avoid lugging this FS534 to customer's office and it not work. They had that piece of crap FS537 on it and want to replace with smaller more reliable finisher. They don't staple much so 100 sheet stapling not needed. Thanks

[KMFLT3CH]

bizhub 808 uses the relay unit RU-515 with either the FS-536 or FS-537.

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[copyman]

bizhub 808 uses the relay unit RU-515 with either the FS-536 or FS-537.

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Thanks, Yes I saw those specs but sometimes Kon/Min doesn't tell you everything and was thinking someone may have tried FS534 and it worked. For instance that chart you posted does not show the FS536 can be used on the "4" series.
This 808 already has the RU-515 with special 2 brackets on it with the FS537.

[KMFLT3CH]

That's not surprising, their documentation has always been a mishmash and they take years to update some of the install manuals. For what it's worth the install manual for various 4e series does show the cross compatibility between 534/536 (see below)

I guess for KM direct we don't really mess around with swapping finisher models on machines. Whatever the main body ships with is what it's going to be using for the length of the lease since it's all documented with serial numbers and such.

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[copyman]

I hear you. Ha-ha us Indy's don't have the luxury of always having the right equipment, parts So we try and improvise best we can.
At this point I'm curious and going to bring both a FS534 & FS536 and try the FS534 first. Don't have anything to lose but $25 what pay for the fins at off lease warehouse.

Also was looking at both fins side by side don't see any differences, connector identical. I would wager that if the PWB 's are swapped from FS536 to FS534 the 534 would now be a 536

[AlaskaCopyTech]

Biggest deal I have found is to make sure you have a relay unit that fits the finisher and then if that mounts on the the engine you are good. If you have a relay unit that is newer but lines up it's risky but should work. If the new relay unit doesn't line up like the one that originally came with the finisher it's not going to work.

[Woxner]

Look up the pwb control for finisher. If it's different I would not chance blowing this. Firmware will also be a issue

[copyman]

Look up the pwb control for finisher. If it's different I would not chance blowing this. Firmware will also be a issue

Just to be clear I know the FS536 has a different pwb than 534, I posted that if you swap boards it becomes a 536 and vice-versa
Highly doubt if a wrong finisher is connected it would damage the main unit. I just think it wont be recognized. The FS536 looks identical to the FS534 so if a dealer has several fins in their shop and accidently plugs a 534 into an Biz 808 there is no way it would do damage. Kon/Min would use a different connector if it would cause harm to main unit or fin.
And I've made the mistake a few times of updating F/W with the wrong fin installed! That's a story for another time.

[Ziggy]

If you do plug up the mismatch finisher to the machine make a note to never update the finisher firmware . We once had a C658 with a FS-534, Not sure how it left our set up area like this but it did. It worked fine for years until a tech updated firmware. he tried with one USB and the finisher would not update. He tried another USB and the finisher did take the firmware. When we rebooted we got a finisher error. Its been so long I don't remember the error code. Fortunately we were at a large account so we disconnected the FS-534 from the C658 and connected it to a C368 and flashed firmware to finisher and got it back to life. We then put the FS-534 back on the C658 and it worked. We just made a note to not update the firmware on the finisher. It stayed at the account for a few more years( until they traded it in) with no problem .

[femaster]

There was a difference in two of the motors, M11 and M13 between the 534 and 536 finishers, which if I remember correctly was the only major difference between the two finishers. I can't recall what the difference was with M13, besides a different part number, but M11 is a stepper motor in the 536, where as it's a standard motor in the 534. This is the reason the boards are different also, as the 536 needs a different driver circuit for the stepper motor.

I seem to recall that the 534 and 536 were interchangeable in the 4e and the 8-series machines provided you didn't try to update the firmware on the finisher if it was connected to a machine that wasn't listed as "compatible". I can't say for sure if that would also apply to the 808 however, as that model is a bit of different animal.