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  • techsxge
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    #1

    [Misc] Machines that you dont like

    I was just wondering after i saw a few people complaininga bout certain machines or techs who had problems with the same machines over and ver again:

    Which Machines do you not like at all and would you like to remove / replace as soon as you have the chance?

    I guess top 5 is the C3350i
  • Albonline
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    • Sep 2008
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    #2
    Re: Machines that you dont like

    Originally posted by techsxge
    I was just wondering after i saw a few people complaininga bout certain machines or techs who had problems with the same machines over and ver again:

    Which Machines do you not like at all and would you like to remove / replace as soon as you have the chance?

    I guess top 5 is the C3350i
    3 most awful to work on were the royal 110,rbc1,and the 2020!, another nightmare the color7. compared to these the newer machines are easy, got to grin when i hear techs complaining about them.

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    • techsxge
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      Re: Machines that you dont like

      Originally posted by Albonline
      3 most awful to work on were the royal 110,rbc1,and the 2020!, another nightmare the color7. compared to these the newer machines are easy, got to grin when i hear techs complaining about them.
      i actually meant more recent machines, say something 2010 and younger

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      • Copier Addict
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        #4
        Re: Machines that you dont like

        Any that have manufacturers whose name starts with an X

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        • tsbservice
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          Re: Machines that you dont like

          A4 KM models/derivatives. Every single A4 bizhub I worked on is worse than worst A3 bizhub I ever touched.
          A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
          Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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          • Hansoon
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            #6
            Re: Machines that you dont like

            Going back a long time, for me the analog Minolta EP-4230 was the most idiotic construction. The development was done in the beginning by a German factory near Stuttgart called Develop. When Minolta acquired Develop they inherited the rotten design and were trying to improve it be redesigning it for over a year in Japan by using parts from the EP-4300. The result was still clunky. Replacing the paper feed rollers not alone was a nightmare. Customer could not remove himself, certain simple paper jams. A technician had to go there, removing guides and other stuff to reach the paper jam.

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            • wjurls
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              #7
              Re: Machines that you dont like

              Originally posted by techsxge
              I was just wondering after i saw a few people complaininga bout certain machines or techs who had problems with the same machines over and ver again:

              Which Machines do you not like at all and would you like to remove / replace as soon as you have the chance?

              I guess top 5 is the C3350i
              Agreed, I only have one C3350i here and it's a pile of crap. Already needs new memory or MFP board. C8000 always makes me cringe as well.

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              • allan
                RTFM!!

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                • Apr 2010
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                #8
                Re: Machines that you dont like

                Anything muratec... C25 is the worst.
                And anything running ink.
                Whatever

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                • Albonline
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                  #9
                  Re: Machines that you dont like

                  Originally posted by techsxge
                  i actually meant more recent machines, say something 2010 and younger
                  In that case the entire I series machines. flakey, and untested before release.

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                  • mojorolla
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                    • Jan 2010
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                    #10
                    Re: Machines that you dont like

                    First gen Lexmark with constant 900 errors come to mind.


                    Failing to plan is planning to fail!!!

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                    • blackcat4866
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                      Re: Machines that you dont like

                      Originally posted by mojorolla
                      First gen Lexmark with constant 900 errors come to mind.


                      It's another variation on Kyocera CF248 errors. Anything from a single document, a print driver setting, a browser based application, a firmware level, or non-print data can cause those errors. =^..^=
                      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                      • adecanmin
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                        #12
                        Re: Machines that you dont like

                        I think the c3850 is worse than the c3851. So far I've had no touch screens go bad with the c3851. A bunch with the c3850. They are 500 new and unavailable. I've had to turn several into parts machines because I needed the screen

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                        • allan
                          RTFM!!

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                          Re: Machines that you dont like

                          My fix for the the Bizhub A4 tragedy. Here have a C360 its for free. Don't have space? No problem it works just fine under a tree.
                          Whatever

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                          • blackcat4866
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                            #14
                            Re: Machines that you dont like

                            Originally posted by allan
                            My fix for the the Bizhub A4 tragedy. Here have a C360 its for free. Don't have space? No problem it works just fine under a tree.
                            All you need is a long extension cord and a long network cable. =^..^=
                            If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                            1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                            3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                            4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                            blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                            • techsxge
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                              #15
                              Re: Machines that you dont like

                              Originally posted by allan
                              My fix for the the Bizhub A4 tragedy. Here have a C360 its for free. Don't have space? No problem it works just fine under a tree.

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